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Baptist cert.of Edwin David Saviel. 8. Birth Cert. Of William Saviel. 9. Death cert. Of Edwin David Saviel. 10. Death Cert. Of Daw Hmyin. 11. Bapt. Cert. Of William Saviel. 12. Marr. Cert. Of William Saviel. 13. Death Cert. Of William Saviel. 14. About the Author. 15. My fathers Research Part Two. 16. Letters from My Father's Family and Friends. SAVIEL FAMILY HISTORY From BRITISH INDIA AND BURMA To PERTH WESTERN AUSTRALIA By GEORGE THOMAS SAVIEL 17. Immigration Letters. 18. Millitary Records. 19. My Great Grand Father. 1942 Evacuees List -Trek from Burma To My Father U.Maung Than William Joe Saviel 1921-1986 R.I.P History Of India Subcontinent comprising of Bangladesh,India (including Sikkim),Pakistan,Bhutan And Nepal. AD c300-500, Golden age of Hinduism under the Gupta dynasty, including its founder Chandra Gupta I c320-c330 and his grandson Chandra Gupta II c380- c415. 5th century White Huns plunged India to anarchy. 1206 First Muslum dyansty extablished at Delhi, though the South of India maintained its independence. SAVIEL FAMILY HISTORY From BRITISH INDIA AND BURMA To PERTH WESTERN AUSTRALIA By GEORGE THOMAS SAVIEL 1527 Mogul empire founded by Baber and consolidated by his grandson Akbar, 16th century Coastal Bases begain to be established by the Portugeses,Dutch ,French and the English traders. 1756-63 British East India Company eliminated their rivals,the French and rapidly established its rule (direct or indirected through the natives princes) over all of India. 1857-8 The India Mutiny. The Rule of the East India company was replace by the British Crown. 1885 National Congress was founded. 1906 The Nationalist agitation under Gandhi. And after world war II under Nehru. 1947 Self-government achieved in the partitionof British India into India and Pakistan. Republic of India (Hindi “name Bharat). Its Capital New Delhi features comprises of 23 States and eight union,Territories. Rivers are Ganges,Indus,Brahnaputra,Deccan,Himalaya. Exports Tea ,Coffee,Fish,Iron Ore,Leather Texliles,Polished Diamonds. Its Languages Hindi,Indira and Rajiv(official) English and 14 other recognized languages. Religion Hinduism 80%.Suui Islam 10% Christainity 2.5% Sikhism 2%. States . West Bengal . Uttar Pradesh . Capitals. Calcutta. Lucknow. Tamil Nadu. Madras. Manipur. Maharashtra. Imphal. Bombay. SAVIEL FAMILY HISTORY From BRITISH INDIA AND BURMA To PERTH WESTERN AUSTRALIA By GEORGE THOMAS SAVIEL Karnataka. Bangalore. Himachal Pradesh Simla. History Of Burma Socialist Republic of the Union of Burma. The capital and chief port is Rangoon. Over half is forested land and has rivers called Irrawaddy and Chindivin. Main exports Rice,Rubber,Jute,Teak and varied Minerals like Rubies,Sapphires,Jade. Its main religions is Himayana Buddhism its centre is at Pagan. Burma came gradually under British Rule following the three Burmese Wars. The 1824-6,1852,1885-6 wars. It was united as a province of India until made a separate country with its own constitution in 1937. It was invaded and occupied by Japan in 1941-5. After world war two in 1948 it achieved inderpendence outside the Commonwealth. Sine then various ethnic groups including the Karens Burmese government. My father's Research. My father started his family history research in 1966 . He applied for a British Passport in Burma so he had to search for his Birth Cert. Bapt. Cert. And his Marriage Cert. In Burma. He also had to search for his father Edwin David Saviel Birth Bapt.Marriage and Death Cert. In Burma and his grandfather George Thomas Saviel Birth,Bapt,Marriage and Death Cert. In India and Burma. Becaurse of World War Two some of the records were lost . The following pages are some of my father research letters he send out on his research on his family history to get a British Passport. My father sent a letter dated 27 January 1967 to the India Record Office in England so he could fine his grandfather 's Birth,Baptism ,Marriage Certificate 's who was born in India in 1827. SAVIEL FAMILY HISTORY From BRITISH INDIA AND BURMA To PERTH WESTERN AUSTRALIA By GEORGE THOMAS SAVIEL The India Record Office sent a letter dated 6 of Febuary 1967 saying that they will search for the Birth,Baptism & Marriage Certificate for him in their Department. On the payment of 2 pound 10 s. The following is the letter from the India Record Office in England to my Father William Saviel in Burma. India Office Records Commonwealth Office King Street,London S.W.1 6 Febuary 1967 R 184/67 Dear Sir/Madam, I acknowledge receipt of your letter of the 29 January and have to advise you that a search will be made in the records of this Department for the bith/baptism of Edwin David Saviel. birth/baptism of George Thomas Saviel. Marriage of George Thomas Saviel on payment by you of the fee of 2 pound 10 s Yours faithfully, D.Stevqle. My father William Saviel sent a letter dated 29 of November 1966 to the India Record Office in England asking for the records of his grandfather's George Thomas Saviel birth ,baptism,& Marriage certificates and the following is the letter from the India Record Office to my father William Saviel dated 8 December 1966. Commonwealth Office,King Charles Street, London S.W. 1 8 December 1966. IOR 1837/66 SAVIEL FAMILY HISTORY From BRITISH INDIA AND BURMA To PERTH WESTERN AUSTRALIA By GEORGE THOMAS SAVIEL Dear Mr.Saviel, A reply to your letter of 29 November has been sent to the Office of the Consul- General, Britishrish Embassy,Rangoon and will be handed or forwarded to you on payment to that Office the sum of 13s.9d. Yours sincerely, (Miss P.M. Watkins) W.Saviel,Esq., My father sent a letter to the Consul -General, British Embassy in Rangoon, Burma asking for the birth,baptism,& Marrige of his father Edwin David Saviel who was born in Burma in 1876 so he could claim a British Passport to leave Burma. The following is his letter to the Consul -General ,British Embassy in Rangoon Burma dated 19th January 1967. c/o E. King,Esq., 18 St. Anthony Street, Kandawgalay, Rangoon,Burma. Copy to Consul-General,British Embassy,Rangoon. 19 January 1967 India office Records, Commonwealth relations Office, King Charles Street,London S.W. 1 England SAVIEL FAMILY HISTORY From BRITISH INDIA AND BURMA To PERTH WESTERN AUSTRALIA By GEORGE THOMAS SAVIEL Sir, I am arranging to apply for a British Passport. And would request you to kindly send at your earliest convenience a certificate of birth,baptism (and Marriage) of my father Edwin David Saviel. I would say he was born the year 1877 at Toungoo in Burma. Thanking you, Yours Faithfully. William Saviel (signed) My father also sent a letter to the India Record Office in England for the birth,Baptism,Marriage & Citizenship of his grandfather George Thomas Saviel who was born in India in 1827 so he could claim for a British Passport the following is his letter dated 29th January 1967 to the India Record Office in England. William Saviel 38 ,90th Street,Kandawgalay P.O. Rangoon,Burma. 19 January 1967 India office Records, Commonwealth Relations Office, King Charles Street, London S.W.1 Sir, I am arranging to apply for a British Passport at ythe Embassy in Rangoon. I would request you to kindly send at your earliest convenience a certificate of Birth,Baptism,Marriage Citizenship of my grabdfather George Thomas Saviel. According to the best of my knowledge my grand father was a European who was born about the period SAVIEL FAMILY HISTORY From BRITISH INDIA AND BURMA To PERTH WESTERN AUSTRALIA By GEORGE THOMAS SAVIEL 1800-1840 either at Bangalore in India or elsewhere. He was sent to Burma by the Government of India as an Accountant to organise the Public Works Department at the time of the construction of the Secretariat at Rangoon. I believe he married my grandmother Daw Hnin Si round about the year 1873 at the American Nbaptist Mission Church at Thonze,Tharrawaddy District,Burma. Thanking you, Yours Faithfully, (William Saviel ) My father William Saviel wrote to the Burma Star Association in England asking them for help with his search for his grandfather 's birth , Baptism & Marriage Certificates the following is his letter to the Burma Star Association dated 23rd January 1968. William Saviel, 38,90th Street, Kandawgalay P.O., Rangoon, Burma. Mr . W. Saviel. No.38,90th Street, Kandawgalay. Rangoon,Burma. Dated 23 January 1968. To, The Honorary National Wefare Officer, Burma Star Associalion, 51 ,St.George Drive, London S.W. 1 Reference:- 0/NM/990 SAVIEL FAMILY HISTORY From BRITISH INDIA AND BURMA To PERTH WESTERN AUSTRALIA By GEORGE THOMAS SAVIEL Dear Sir, Very many thanks for your letter of the 22nd May 67. Kindly forgive this belated delay in replyin to you as I had been wawaiting news of my grandfather’s and father’s birth and marriage certificate.These records are not traceable by the Commonwealth Relations Office in London. I have however received a service record of my grandfather George Thomas Saviel from the India Office Records and they have referred the matter to Delhi ,India. I am still awaiting news of this from India. I am enclosing some particulars of my grandfather and father,Edwin David Saviel in this letter and hope that you will ,if possible, assist me in obtaining furthrt information of the places and dates of the births and marriages of my forebears. Without these documents I shall find it very difficult to take out my British passport. I have duly completed and filled in the form you sent me and am returning the same together with this letter under registered cover. On the 3rd January 1968 I interviewed the Vice Consul,Mr.J.T. Berrell, of the Australian Embassy here in Rangoon as regards migration to Australia with my family . Results of this interview will be knoewn in about 6 weeks time. I shall keep you informed of further developments in this matter. Hoping to hear from you again, I,remain, Sir, Yoursfaithfully, W. Saviel. SAVIEL FAMILY HISTORY From BRITISH INDIA AND BURMA To PERTH WESTERN AUSTRALIA By GEORGE THOMAS SAVIEL My father William Saviel sent a letter to the Burma Star Association dated the 6th January 1969 saying that he did not find the records for his grandfather George Thomas Saviel from the Britsh Embassy in India the following is his letter to the Burma star Association . W.Saviel, No.38,90th Street,Kandawgalay P.O. Rangoon,Burma. 6th January 1969 The Honorary National Welfare Officer, Burma Strar Association, 51 ,St. George Drive,London, S.W.1 Your ref: 0/NM/986 dated 7th March 1968 Dear Sir , Further to my letter ref:0/NM/990 of the 23 rd January 1968 I now wish to inform you that the British High Commission at Delhi were unsuccessful in their attempt to provide me with the relevant facts about the date and place of birth of my grandfather,George Thomas Saviel. As regards my interview with the Australian Vice-Consul I am glad to inform you that my application for permanent residence in Austrlia has been provisionally approved. I am now applying to the Consul, British Embassy at Rangoon to establish British nationality. A copy of this application is enclosed which is self explanatory. With compliments of the season. Yours faithfully, (W.Saviel) SAVIEL FAMILY HISTORY From BRITISH INDIA AND BURMA To PERTH WESTERN AUSTRALIA By GEORGE THOMAS SAVIEL W.Saviel, My father William Saviel sent a letter to the Consul -General at the British Embassy in Rangoon Burma asking for the applicantion for a British Passport and that he is a British subject born in Burma the following is his letter dated the 6th January 1969 . No.38,90th Street,Kandawgalay P.O. Rangoon,Burma. 6th January 1969 The Consul, Consular Section, British Embassy, Rangoon. Sir, I am submitting my application to establish British nationality. I am an applicant who comes under the category © applicants ( born in Burma,and father born in Burma) whose paternal grandfather was born on British Territory outside Burma. I am quite aware of the fact that certain documents are required to establish the family tree but unfortunately some of these documents were lost during World War II by my parents when they were being evacuated to India. Both my parents are dead now and I am deprived of the means of knowing or obtaining even the duplicate documents. However the attached letters from India Office Records,Commonwealth Office, are sufficient to prove that my grandfather,George Thomas Saviel was a British Subject born in India. As regards my father,Edwin David Saviel who was born at Toungoo in Burma, I can only produce his Identity Card which bears N.R.C.No.ACO38020 and his Baptismal Certificte. As for my offical birth certificate I lost it while serving wiyh the British Forces in World War II. Certificate of service issued by the Ministry of Defence,London and Discharge Certificate from the Burma Auxiliary Force are attached for your perusal . I was born in Pegu and my N.R.C. Is CC 048040. I now wish to state frankly and humbly the fact that I have decided to leave Burma for good and that my application for permanent residence in Australia has been Provisionally approved. In view of the fact that it is very hard to obtain travel documents from the Burmese authorities, I will be extremely thankful if you kindly consider my application sympathetically so that I may be able to travel as a British Subject. Yours Faithfully. SAVIEL FAMILY HISTORY From BRITISH INDIA AND BURMA To PERTH WESTERN AUSTRALIA By GEORGE THOMAS SAVIEL (W.Saviel) Enclosures. In 1969 my father William Saviel sent a letter to the India Record Office London England requesting the information on his grandfather George Thomas Saviel who was born in India in 1827 and he was claiming for British Passport and that he would like to know the date and place of birth of his grandfather George Thomas Saviel and his marriage to Daw Rose Hnin Si in Burma. The following is his letter dated 17th January 1969. W.Saviel, No.38,90th Street, Kandawgalay P.O., Rangoon.Burma. 17 January 1969. India Records Office, Foreign and Commonwealth Office, No.197 Blackfriars Street, London,S.E.1 Sir, As I have made a claim to British nationality Her Majestry's Consul at Rangoon has directed me to request you to make a search of the following documents: SAVIEL FAMILY HISTORY From BRITISH INDIA AND BURMA To PERTH WESTERN AUSTRALIA By GEORGE THOMAS SAVIEL Marriage certificate of my grandfather, George Thomas Saviel. According to the best of my knowledge my grandfather married my grandmother,Daw Hnin Si between the years 1868/1878 at the American Baptist Mission Church at Thonze, tharrawaddy District, Burma by Rev. Mrs Ingalls. Birth or baptism certificate of my grandfather, George Thomas Saviel. Born in India about the year 1827. exact place of birth and baptism unknown. Marriage certificate of my father, Edwin David Saviel who was born at Toungoo, Burma in about the year 1877. Baptised at Pegu, Burma between 1900/1905 at the American Baptist Mission Church by Rev. M.C.Parish. Birth or Baptism certificate of William Saviel .Born at Pegu,Burma between 1920/ 1921. Baptised at Sagaing,Burma on 28th February 1932 at the American Baptist Mission Church. I would like to mention the fact that we had exchanged correspondence in the past and a copy of your last letter is enclosed. Nevertheless I am writing to you again since my previous letters were mainly concerned about my grandfather, and moreover Her Majestry 's Consul wishes me to make further effort to obtain the documents. thanking you I remain sir, Yoursfaithfully, (William Saviel) The India Record Office in London England sent my father William Saviel a letter dated the 27th January 1969 telling my father that they look for the Baptism Certificate for George Thomas Saviel in their record but did not find it. India office Library India Office Records Foreign and Commonwealth Office 197 Blackfriars Road London S.E.1 XPS/95 0I-928 9531 27 January 1969 Dear Mr Saviel, I am replying to your letter of 17 January. A further search has been made amongst the records held in this Office for the following:1. Mariage certificate of George Thomas Saviel during the years 1868-1878. 2. Birth/Baptism of George Thomas Saviel during the years 1826-1830. 3. Birth/Baptism of Edwin David Saviel during the years 1876-1880 and 1900-1905 respectively. You did SAVIEL FAMILY HISTORY From BRITISH INDIA AND BURMA To PERTH WESTERN AUSTRALIA By GEORGE THOMAS SAVIEL in fact requested the marriage certificate but in view of the information you gave, it was assumed that it was in fact the Birth/Baptism certificate which was requested. I regret,however, that no entries relating to the above-named persons have been traced. A search has also been made amongst the records held in this Office for the Birth/Baptism of William Saviel during the years 1920-1925 and 1932-1936 with no success. Since all these events appear to have taken place under the auspices of the American Baptist Mission Church I would suggest that you contact them,if you have not already done so. I regret that we have again been unable to provide you with the relevant information. yours sincerely (J.R. Garrow) India Office Records In 1969 the British Embassy in Rangoon,Burma sent a letter to my father William Saviel in Burma to call their Office in Rangoon and bring some money for the information about his grandfather and father . The letter was dated the 3 February 1969 . The following is that letter from the British Embassy in rangoon,Burma to my father William Saviel in Burma. Mr W. Saviel, No.38-90th Street, Kandawgalay P.O., Rangoon,Burma. CON.Saviel,W, British Embassy, Rangoon. Burma. 3 February 1969. Dear Sir/Madam, I should be grateful if you would call at this Embassy at your early conveniece; our office hours , Monday to Friday, inclusive, are from 8.30 am to 1.30 pm. Please bring K 7.15. for collection of Commonwealth Office reply. SAVIEL FAMILY HISTORY From BRITISH INDIA AND BURMA To PERTH WESTERN AUSTRALIA By GEORGE THOMAS SAVIEL Yours faithfully, N.F.loote. Mr.W.Saviel, 38,90th Street, Kandawgalay P.O. For Her Majesty's Consul. Rangoon.Burma. In 1969 my father wrote to the Burma Batist Church in Rangoon ,Burma for information on his grandfather George Thomas Saviel and his father Edwin David Saviel for their marriage certificates so he could apply for a British Passports the following is his letter to the Burma Baptist Church . W.Saviel No.38,90th Street, Kandawgalay P.O., Rangoon.Burma. 11th February 1969. SAVIEL FAMILY HISTORY From BRITISH INDIA AND BURMA To PERTH WESTERN AUSTRALIA By GEORGE THOMAS SAVIEL Rev. U Aye Mya Kyaw, General Secretary, Burma Baptist Convention, 143 St. John's Road, Rangoon.Burma . Dear Sir, As I have made a claim for British nationality I have been trying to trace the marriage and baptism of my grandfather George Thomas Saviel and that of my father,Edwin David Saviel but so far I have been unsuccessful. To the best of my knowledge the marriage of my grandfather with my grandmother,Daw Hnin Si was performed by Rev. or Mrs Ingalls at the Baptist Church in Thonze during the years 18681878. I do not know whether my grandfather was baptised at the same place before the marriage. My father was baptised between the years 1900-1910 probably by Rev. Parish at the Baptist Church in Pegu. The marriage of my father and mother,Daw Hmyin also took place at the Pegu Baptist Church at about the same period. Since all the above mentioned events took place under the auspices of the American Baptist Mission Church, I would reqest you to kindly make a search amongst the records held in your Office and furnish me with relevent details or copies of marriage and baptismal certificte so that I may forward them to the British Consul in connection with mypassport. As the matter is urgent I will be very thankful if you will kindly let me have a reply as soon as possible. Yours truly, ( W.Saviel) In May 1969 my father wrote to the British Embassy in Rangoon,Burma with information about his applicantion for British Nationalisation and the letter's he received from the British Embassy in India and the letter from The Burma Baptist Church in Rangoon, Burma . He wish that these letter's will help in his claim . The following is his letter to the British Embassy in Rangoon, Burma dated the 15th of May 1969. SAVIEL FAMILY HISTORY From BRITISH INDIA AND BURMA To PERTH WESTERN AUSTRALIA By GEORGE THOMAS SAVIEL W.Saviel, No. 38 90th Street, Kandawgalay P.O. Rangoon Burma. 15th May 1969. Her Majesty's Consul, British Embassy, Rangoon.Burma. Dear Madam, With reference to your letter CON.Saviel.W of January 9,1969. I am attaching copies of my letters sent to India Records Office and Burma Baptist Convention and their respective replies which are self explanatory. I have now come to the end and I can only pray that my application will have your sympathetic consideration. It has always been my intention to have close tie with the British, and I had been Loyal to Her Majesty;s Government in my youthful days when I had the chance of serving in H.M. Forces during World War II. Now that I have decided to leave Burma forever and my application for permanent residence in Australia having been approved, and because of the various difficculties I am encountering in this country,I am approaching Her Majestry's Government with my only and last request, that is to issue me a passport. I have already submitted my father's Baptismal Certificate and I am now submitting my Baptism Certificate duly translated by the offical translator. I am also submitting my marriage certificate together with the birth certificate of my childern. Hoping that my application wil have kind attention, I remain Madam, Yoursfaithfully ( W.Saviel ) Enclosure. 13. SAVIEL FAMILY HISTORY From BRITISH INDIA AND BURMA To PERTH WESTERN AUSTRALIA By GEORGE THOMAS SAVIEL In 1969 my father William Saviel who was living in Rangoon,Burma wrote to the British Embassy in Rangoon ,Burma that he has sent the birth,baptism certificates of his father and himself to them that should be evidence that they desended from George Thomas Saviel and that his marriage certificate was constructed in May 1969 because his wife was a Buddhist and that she became a christian in 1968 . That he was married in 1953 and that the marriage ceremony was perform in a Buddhist way. They have been living as husband and wife . The following is his letter to the British Embassy in Rangoon, Burma dated the 9th of June 1969. W.Saviel, No.38,90th Street, Kandawgalay P.O., Rangoon,Burma. 9th June 1969. Her Majesty's Consul, Consular Section, British Embassy, Rangoon,Burma. Dear Madam, I thank you for your letter CON.Saviel.W. Of 21 May 1969 regarding my claim to British nationality. In the absence of birth certificates,baptism certificates of my father and myself are the only evidence which can prove my descent from my grandfather, and these have already been sent to you. It is true that my marriage certificate was constructed on the 10th May 1969. My wife was a Buddhist before she was converted to Christianity on 4th December 1967. We were SAVIEL FAMILY HISTORY From BRITISH INDIA AND BURMA To PERTH WESTERN AUSTRALIA By GEORGE THOMAS SAVIEL actually married as far back as 19th November 1953 and have been living as husand and wife. Photographs taken on days relating to these events are enclosed. Since she was a Buddhist then, the marriage ceremony was performed according to Buddhist custom, and no marriage certificate was constructed. In fact that my name appeared on the birth certificates of my childern prove that we were married before they were born.Prior to that marriage I was a bachelor and she was a spinster. I may also point out that since Burma attained ther Independence I have been using my name as W.Saviel alias Maung Than. As regards the evidence that I have been granted entry into Australia I am attaching the original letter from the Australian Embassy. Thanking you for sympathetic considerations and kind help, I remain ,Madam, Yoursfaithfully, ( W.Saviel ) In December 1969 my father living in Rangoon,Burma wrote to the registrar of the Doveton College in Lucknow, India looking for the records of his father Edwin David Saviel who was sent their in 1885 from Burma by his father George Thomas Saviel to study. The following is his letter to them dated the 3rd of December 1969 . W.Saviel., SAVIEL FAMILY HISTORY From BRITISH INDIA AND BURMA To PERTH WESTERN AUSTRALIA By GEORGE THOMAS SAVIEL No.38,90th Street, Kandawgalay P.O., Rangoon,Burma. 3rd December 1969 The Registrar, Doveton College ( or Duffton College ). Lucknow. Dear sir, I will be very thankfull if you will kindly furnish me with particulars such as father's name, nationality, year of admittance, standard passed, date of leaving your college etc. of my father Edwin David Saviel who died some years ago. It is important that the statement should contain his father's name and date of birth according to your school register.The particulars are required to be loged with the British Embassy in Rangoon in connection with my claim for British nationality. To the best of my knowledge my father was born in Burma about or in the year 1877.It is therefore probable that he attended your college about the years 1885-1897. My grandfather George Thomas saviel was a civil servant then serving in Burma and sent his son ,Edwin to your boarding college. I trust that the matter will receive your urgent attention. With apologies for troubling you and thanking you in anticipation I remain Sir, yoursfaithfully, ( W.Saviel ) In December 1969 my father living in Rangoon, Burma wrote to the Registarar of the La Martinires College in Calcutta, India asking for the records of his father Edwin David Saviel who was sent there from Burma by his father George Thomas Saviel to study in 1892. The following is his letter dated the 3rd of December 1969 . SAVIEL FAMILY HISTORY From BRITISH INDIA AND BURMA To PERTH WESTERN AUSTRALIA By GEORGE THOMAS SAVIEL W.Saviel, No.38,90th Street, Kandawgalay P.O. , Rangoon,Burma. 3rd December 1969 The Registrar, La Martinieres Boys High School, Calcutta. Dear Sir, I will be very thankful if you will kindly furnish me with particulatrs such as father’s name, nationality, year of admittance, standard passed,date of leaving your school etc. of my father Edwin David Saviel who died some years ago. It is important that the statement should contain his father’s name and date of birth according to your school register. The particulars are required to be loged with the British Embassy in Rangoon in connection with my claim for British nationality. To the best of my knowledge my father was born in Burma about or in the year 1877. It is therefore probable that he attended your school about the years 1885-1895. My grandfather George Thomas Saviel was a civil servant then serving in Burma and sent his son Edwin to your boarding school. I trust that the matter will receive your urgent attention. With apologies for troubling you and thanking you in anticipation I remain sir, Yoursfaithfully, ( W.Saviel ) In December 1969 Lt .Col . E.J. Simeon (Retd) wrote to my father from the La Martiniere College in Calcutta India about the records for my fathers father Edwin David Saviel. Lt.Col.E.J. Simeon ( Retd) La Martiniere 11, Loudon Street, SAVIEL FAMILY HISTORY From BRITISH INDIA AND BURMA To PERTH WESTERN AUSTRALIA By GEORGE THOMAS SAVIEL Calcutta-17. 30th December 1969 Mr. W. Saviel, No.38,90th Street, Kandawgalay P.O., Rangoon. Dear Mr .Saviel, Please refer to your letter dated the 3rd of December 1969. During the war years the school evacuated,and most of the records were either destroyed or lost, We regret therefore that we are unable to give you the information that you require. Yours sincerely, E.J. Simeon. Principal In 1970 The British embassy in Rangoon, Burma wrote to my father William Saviel about his letter to them for information on claiming British Nationalisation . That the letter from pastor U Than Aung was not good and that he had to produce the birth certificate of his grandfather. The following is the letter date The 9th of February 1970 from the British Embassy in Rangoon Burma to my father William Saviel in Rangoon Burma. CON.Saviel,W. Rangoon. British Embassy, 9 February 1970. Dear Mr.Saviel, Thank you for your letter of 3 February about your claim to British nationality. I regret that the affidavit submitted by you in support of your own birth is not acceptable.The certificate by Pastor U Tha Aung may be acceptable by the authorities to cover your parents’ marriage. I should be grateful therefore if you would please produce evidence of your grandparents’marriage and SAVIEL FAMILY HISTORY From BRITISH INDIA AND BURMA To PERTH WESTERN AUSTRALIA By GEORGE THOMAS SAVIEL additional evidence of your own birth. Yours sincerely, ( Miss ) G.Robertson Her Majesty’s Consul Mr.W.Saviel, In 1970 The Burmese Baptist Church In Thonze sent my father a letter informing him that they did not have the records of his grandfather and father marriage certificate at their church because of world war two . The following is that letter from the Burmese Baptist Church In Burma to my Father living in Rangoon,Burma. 38,90th Street, Kandawgalay P.O. Rangoon. Dated ,20th April 1970. Mr.W.Saviel, No.38,90th Street, Kandawagalay P.O., Rangoon. Dear Mr.Saviel, With reference to your request to furnish you with a copy or particulars of the marriage certificate of your grandfather,George Thomas Saviel with your grandmother, Daw Hnin Si, I regret I am unable to provide you with such as all the records we had were lost or destroyed during World War II. Yours truly, ( Win Htun ) Secretary,Burmese Baptist Mission, Thonze. The Burma Star Association in England wrote to my father living in Rangoon Burma say they will research in England SAVIEL FAMILY HISTORY From BRITISH INDIA AND BURMA To PERTH WESTERN AUSTRALIA By GEORGE THOMAS SAVIEL for information on the marriage record for his grandfather George Thomas Saviel . They said that they could not fine any record for him. The following is the letter from them to my father William Saviel living in Rangoon Burma . Burma Star Associalion 51 St.George's Drive, London, S.W.1. Ref; 0/NM/986 W.Saviel Esq., No.38 90th Street, Kandawgalay, Rangoon,Burma. Dear Mr.Saviel, Sine your letter of January 23rd I have been making what enquiries I could amongst ex-Burma people I know here in the U.K. But without success, I am afraid .Since the Commonwealth Retations Office with all its resources has been unable to trace the birth and marriage certificates of your father and grandfather I am sure you will apprecate there is little and Ex-Service organisation such as ours can do here in the U.K. However, I hope that the India Office Records reference of the matter to Delhi will have some result and perhaps you will let me know immediately you hear anything from there. I do hope also ,your interview with the Australian Vice-Consul in regard to emigration will have a successful result. Please let me know the outcome. With all good wishes, SAVIEL FAMILY HISTORY From BRITISH INDIA AND BURMA To PERTH WESTERN AUSTRALIA By GEORGE THOMAS SAVIEL Yours sincerely, A. St.Pierre. Hon. National Wefare Officer. In 1970 The British Embassy in Rangoon Burma sent a letter to my father living in Rangoon Burma . They thank my father for his letter dated the 1st of October 1970 and that they have look at all documents that he have sent them in regard of his claim of British nationalisation and that the document was not good. He did not have the marriage certificate of his grandfather . He would have to search for the document of his grandfather marriage certificate . The following is the letter from the British Embassy in Rangoon, Burma to my father William Saviel living in Rangoon Burma dated 16th of November 1970.The following is his letter. CON.Saviel,W. Rangoon.Burma. British Embassy, 16 November 1970. Dear Mr.Saviel, Thank you for your letter 1 October. I have taken another long look at all the documents you have submitted in connexion with your claim to British nationality but regret that ,in the absence of your paternal grandfather's marriage certificate your claim, by reason of your legitimate decent from a paternal grandfather born in former British India, is not tenable. The fact that the records of the church where your grandparents were believed to been married were destroyed during World War II does not of itself constitute evidence that the marriage actually took place. And unfortunately you have not been able to provide other corroborative evidence. Yours sincerely, SAVIEL FAMILY HISTORY From BRITISH INDIA AND BURMA To PERTH WESTERN AUSTRALIA By GEORGE THOMAS SAVIEL (miss) G.Robertson Her Majesty's Consul. Mr.W.Saviel, No.38 Dhamayone Short Street, Kandawglay P.O. Rangoon.Burma. W.Saviel, 32, 88th Street, Kandawagalay.P.O. Rangoon.Burma. In February 1971 my father wrote to the India record Office in England asking for the marriage certificate of his grandfather's George Thomas Saviel Of the Public Works Department . That he married Daw Hnin Si in Thonze, Burma in 1868-1878 . The date of the marriage was not known and would like help in finding it. The following is my father letter dated 3rd of February 1971 to the India record Office in London England . 3 February 1971. To The Officer-In Charge, India Records Office, Foreign & Commonwealth Office, 197 Blackfriars Street, London, S.E.1. Re:- Mariage Certificate -the late Mr.George Thomas Saviel of -Public Works Department. Dear Sir, My paternal grandfather the late Mr.George Thomas Saviel got married to my grandmother the late Daw Hnin Si at American baptist Mission Church,Thonze,District: Tharrawaddy District in lower Burma about the years between 1868-1878- the actual year of their marriage being not known as the Church records at SAVIEL FAMILY HISTORY From BRITISH INDIA AND BURMA To PERTH WESTERN AUSTRALIA By GEORGE THOMAS SAVIEL Thonze Tharrawaddy District in Burma were lost during the last war. Kindly initiate search for 10 years-1868 to 1878- for my grandfather's marriage and furnish necessary certificate if available. Thanking you. Yoursfaithfully, ( William Saviel) W.Saviel. In March 1971 My father wrote to the India Record Office in London England asking for all his documents that he had sent them to be return to him beourse he will be leaving Burma to travel to Australia Soon . The following is his letter to the India Record Office in London England dated the 19th of March 1971. No.32,88th Street, Rangoon.Burma. 19th March, 1971. Your ref: Con.Saviel W. Her Majestry's Consul, British Embassy, Rangoon.Burma. Madam, As I will be leaving this country very shortly for Australia I request you to kindly return all the relevent documents submitted to you in connection with my claim to establish British Nationality. SAVIEL FAMILY HISTORY From BRITISH INDIA AND BURMA To PERTH WESTERN AUSTRALIA By GEORGE THOMAS SAVIEL Thanking you, i remain Madam, Yours faithfully, W.Saviel In 1968 the Office of The C.D.A .(P) in Allahabad India wrote to my father about his search for the records of his grandfather claim of a pension from the India Government when he stop work for the Public Works Dept. in 1888. They said that they did not have his record in their Office.The following is the letter from Allahabad to my father living in Rangoon, Burma dated 12th of June 1968 . No.At/CoordfAn.22/CLXII Office of The C.D.A.(P) ALLAHABAD. 12-6-68 To Mr.W.Saviel, No.38,90th Street, Kandawgalay, P.O., Rangoon,Burma. Dear Sir, With reference your petition dated 28-5-68 ,I am to state that the information called for in your above cited petition is not available in this office. Yours faithfully, Accounts Officer ( Pensions ) TRUE COPY The India Record Office In London England sent a letter to my father in Rangoon Burma saying they have got his letter SAVIEL FAMILY HISTORY From BRITISH INDIA AND BURMA To PERTH WESTERN AUSTRALIA By GEORGE THOMAS SAVIEL of the July 1967 and that they have found some information on his grandfather birth and baptism records in their office. The following is that letter sent to my father William Saviel living in Rangoon, Burma dated the 31st of August 1967 . India Office Records Commonwealth Office, King Charles Street,London S.W.1, Whitehall 2323 XR 4544/67 31 August 1967 Dear Mr. Saviel, Your letter of 31 july addressed to the Home office has been forewarded to this department. As you metion in your letter ,it has not been possible to locate records of George Thomas Saviel's baptism amd marriage in the Ecclessiastical Returns. Working on the basis of some additional clues provided by you, I hane beencarry out a search for information in other biographical sources at this office and I am glad to say that I have discovered a few facts about him. I have pleasure in inclosing a brief note on my findings.There are definite references to his birth in India, but as his baptism is not included in the Ecclesiastical Returns it is impossible for us to say exactly whenor where he was born. No fee is charge for searches in sources other than the Ecclesiastical Returns. I hope the enclosed information will be of some use. Yours sincerely Sd./- M.J. Pearce In 1967 a Mr Peace in the India Record Office in London England wrote a letter to Miss Valentine in India for information on the Birth,Baptism & Marriage of George Thomas Saviel which was enquired by my father William Saviel living in Rangoon Burma. The following is that letter dated the 7th September 1967 to Miss Valentine in India. W.Saviel Esq., 38-90th Street, Kandawgalay P.O., Rangoon,Burma. SAVIEL FAMILY HISTORY From BRITISH INDIA AND BURMA To PERTH WESTERN AUSTRALIA By GEORGE THOMAS SAVIEL INDIA OFFICE RECORDS Commonwealth Office, King Charles Street,London S.W.1 Whitehall 2323 XR 4544/67 7 September 1967 Dear Mrs Valentine, We have recently been trying to discover the date and place of birth of George Thomas Saviel who retired from the Public Works Department in 1888, and I wonder if you could possibly help us. The Information we seek has been requested by Mr W.Saviel of 38,90th Street,Kandawgalay P.O., Rangoon who states that George Thomas Saviel was in receipt of a pension from the Government of India during his residence in Simla and Burma. As government pension paid in India are administered by the office of the Controller of Defence Accounts(Pensions),Draupadighat,Allahadabad, perhaps that office might have records of former recipients of pensions giving the information required. In any case,the Controller of Defence Accounts might be able to suggest a means of obtaining the relevant facts, if such records are not available at Allahabad. I enclose a note on George Thomas Saviel which I hope may help. Yours sincerely ( M.J. Pearce ) Mrs J. H. Valentine, B.H.C., Delhi. SAVIEL FAMILY HISTORY From BRITISH INDIA AND BURMA To PERTH WESTERN AUSTRALIA By GEORGE THOMAS SAVIEL The following is the Public Works Department Service Record of my Great Grand Father George Thomas Saviel which my father got in 1967 from the India Record Office London England in his research for his grand father date and place of birth in India. Public Works Department Service Record. Saviel George Thomas1849 Age-22 7 years service. Unmarried. Previous appointment- None. Prsent appointment- 1 Nov. 1841,Clerk: Lord William Bentick steamer. May 1847- Clerk, Nerbudda steamer. Previous appointment- clerk to the Office in charge of river pilots. (lists of Bengal Uncovernanted Civil Servants) Appointed to the Public Works Department as Accountant,3rd grade in Oct. 1861. Sept. 1885 – Central Office of Accounts Simla, 26 years 3 months service. ( Public Works Dept. List 31 Dec. 1887) Retired between 1 Jan. and 30 June 1888. (Public Works Dept. List 1888) Born in India, Examiner ,3rd grade,Examiners Office : attached to the Military Works Department, list of Civil Engineers and Uncovenanted Servants ,East Indian and European ,employed in the Public Works,Military and SAVIEL FAMILY HISTORY From BRITISH INDIA AND BURMA To PERTH WESTERN AUSTRALIA By GEORGE THOMAS SAVIEL Postal Dept. as they stood on 1 April 1886. My Research by George Thomas Saviel. I stared to research my family history after my father William Joe Saviel died in 1986. After 20 years I started to research my family history again in 2007 . I have contacted some English and Australian researcher to research my family history. The following are some of the letters from the researcher in England and Australia. that I sent for research on my family history.The Following are their letters to me living in Perth western Australia in 1987. In 1987 Archie McMillan wrote to me in Australia from England saying he would research for my family history in the India Record Office at the British Library in London England for any records of my great grand father George Thomas Saviel . The following is his letter dated 7 th September 1987 to me living in Perth Western Australia . He also found some information on Saville and Savile in 1840's he say in his letter. SAVIEL FAMILY HISTORY From BRITISH INDIA AND BURMA To PERTH WESTERN AUSTRALIA By GEORGE THOMAS SAVIEL 3 ,Milton Avenue, Westcott,Dorking, Surrey,UK,RH4 3QA. 7th September, 1987. Dear Mr. Saviel, Further to my letter of 3rd August I have now covered to 1840 but this time have not included the SAVILL(E) variants of SAVIEL as the are rather numerous. Details of SAVIEL entries are enclosed. I have now used up funds in hand. I should be very pleased to continue, from 1841 onwards, if you can let me have a further payment. Yours sincerely, Archie McMillan. The following are records of Saviel,Savile and Saville that Archie McMillan found in the India Record Office at the British Library London England for me SAVIEL Baptisms/Marriages/Burials, Bengal/Madras/Bombay. 1801-40. IOR/N/1/7/111. Francis X Sabiel, Bachelor & Brigida X D'Rosario,Spinster,both of Calcutta Fort William in Bengal married in Calcutta 10 Oct. 1905. Wit: G.de Souza, John Murphy, John X Gomez. IOR/N/1/8/425. Thomas Saviel,Bachelor & Charlotte Gomis, SAVIEL FAMILY HISTORY From BRITISH INDIA AND BURMA To PERTH WESTERN AUSTRALIA By GEORGE THOMAS SAVIEL Spinster, both of Calcutta Fort William in Bengal were married at Calcutta 23 Nov. 1811. Wit: G.Gill, Huhn. IOR/N/2/6/304. Born 5 Nov. 1816 at Quilon. James s James Saveall, H.M. 80th Regiment. IOR/N/1/17/45. Supposed born in the year 1809,bapt. 15 Dec. 1827 at Barrackpore. John s George Savail,Seaman & Mary his wife. IOR/N/2/13/67. Married by Banns at Secunderabad, 17 April 1832. Benjamin Peter Saviel, 1st Dresser H.M.N.I.,bachelor & Mary X Wilkinson, of Bolarannor,Spinster. Wit: Samuel Chapman, Arthur O'Leary. IOR/N/2/16/354. Bapt. 13 Feb. 1835 at Muktul according to Rubric of Church of England. Anna (Surname Joseph ) an orphan female child (parents unknown ) adopted by Benjamin Peter Saviel of the Subordinate Medical Branch of the Nizam's service about 4 years of age ( date of birth unknown ) . Sponsors: Mary Saviel, Mary Anne Saviel, John Edward Saviel. IOR/N/2/13/355. Bapt. 13 Feb. 1835 at Muktul according to Rubric of Church of England. William Peter Saviel s John Edward Saviel of the Subordinate Medical Branch of His Highness the Nizam's service & Mary Ann his wife. Born 4 Jan. 1834. Sponsors: Adela Goosetree, Clementina Goosetree, Samuel Chapman. SAVIEL FAMILY HISTORY From BRITISH INDIA AND BURMA To PERTH WESTERN AUSTRALIA By GEORGE THOMAS SAVIEL IOR/N/2/19/44. Born 17 June ,Bapt. 12 Dec. 1838 at Ellichpore according to the Rubric of the Church Of England. Benjamin s John Edward Saviel of the Subordinate Medical Service of the Nizam's Service & Mary Anne his wife. Sponsors: William Crome, Susan Crome, Richard Tuson. The following is a letter from Lord Teviot a researcher that has research for records for my family history in England sent to me in Australia in 1987 and the research record he have found for me.And he said it would cost me 40 Pounds for his research to be done. He has found my great grand father's Marriage Certificate saying that he married Sophia Mary Morley in Calcutta, India in 1853 that his father's name was George Saviel and that her father name is William Morley. That he could not find any records of George senior in India. Census Searches Lord & Lady Teviot 12 Grand Avenue Hassocks, Sussex BN6 8DA telephone:(07918) 4471 2nd March 1987 Dear Mr Saviel, Futher to our correspondence on your family history, I am pleased to say that we have been able to establish one further generation in the line. SAVIEL FAMILY HISTORY From BRITISH INDIA AND BURMA To PERTH WESTERN AUSTRALIA By GEORGE THOMAS SAVIEL Your great-grandfather George Thomas Saviel was married to Sophia Mary Morley on the 10th January 1853. In the marriage entry it is stated that his father was George Saviel and that he was 21 years of age, which would mean that he was born some time in 1831. Unfortunately , there is no record of the batism of George Thomas Saviel, nor are there any references to his father George senior in the Bengal directories from 1830 onwards: However ,there are a few entries in later directories. You will note in the attached report the entries extracted from the card index at the India Office Library, which gives details of entries in the Ecclesiastical Registers as far back as 1770 in respect of the Saviel family. It would appear that the Saviel family had been in India for many years,and that they originated from Europe. Searches were also made in the Burial Index for the Bengal Presidency, but no entries were found relating to George Saviel. It would seem unlikely that we shall be able to progress further back in your ancestry owing to the fact that the records are so sparse, but it is of course encouraging that the line is now authenticated back to the early part of the nineteenth century. Our fee for this research and repot is 40 pounds. Yours sincerely, (Lord Teviot) Mr G. Saviel, 23 Calvert Way, Gerrawhen 6064, Western Australia Genealogical Researchers and Consultants Census Searches Lord & Lady Teviot 12 Grand Avenue Hassocks Sussex BN6 8DA Telephone: (07918) 4471 SAVIEL FAMILY HISTORY From BRITISH INDIA AND BURMA To PERTH WESTERN AUSTRALIA By GEORGE THOMAS SAVIEL THE SAVIEL FAMILY India Office Library- Bengal Ecclesiastical Registers- Old Church, Calcutta 10th January 1853 George Thomas Saviel aged 21, bachelor, a writer of Calcutta, married Sophia Mary Morley aged 15,spinster. The bridegroom's father was George Saviel;that of the bride was William Morley. The ceremony took place by banns, and the witnesses were J. Lefever, J.H.B. Wilkie and E.S. Ginkin. India Office Library- Saviel entries extracted from the card index Baptisms 29 Dec 1833 ? Saviel , a native woman aged about 30, at St John's Calcutta. 21 Jul 1861 Edwin Saviel 6th son of Moses (a clerk)and Eliza, at Madras. 8 Sep 1861 Rosa Mary daughter of Moses (a clerk) and Elizabeth, at Madras,the child was born on the 30th August 1861. Marriages 8 Nov 1770 Manoel savil married Elizabeth de Cruz at the Mission Church,Calcutta. 23 Nov 1821 Thomas Saviel married Charlotte Gomis at Calcutta. 28 Feb 1829 Catherine Saviel married John Reid, a printer,under age at Calcutta. 23 Feb 1841 Caroline Saviel married John Benjamin Rondeau, widower,a writer, at St James's Church, Calcutta. Burials 8 Oct 1845 Maria Saviel, apauper,buried at the Park Street Burial Ground in Calcutta, aged 70. SAVIEL FAMILY HISTORY From BRITISH INDIA AND BURMA To PERTH WESTERN AUSTRALIA By GEORGE THOMAS SAVIEL 12 Jun 1861 Anthony Charles Edward Saviel, the son of Moses Saviel,a clerk, and Eliza, was buried at Madrasm aged 2 years ,3 months and 14 days. 23 Jun 1884 Alexander Saviel , aged 20, was buried in the Town Cemetery at Rangoon. The cause of death is recorded as being drowning while under a fit of epilepsy. February , 1987 Genealogical Researchers And Consultants In 1987 Mr Grandy a researcher in England did some research for me on my family history and the following is his letter to me in Australia with what he have found on my family . The following is his letter dated 30th of July 1988. 3 Church Crescent, Whetstone, London N20 0JR July 30th 1988 Dear Mr Saviel, I have used up the rest of your money on a search of our national indexes of births,marriages and deaths which cover all England and Wales and began in July 1837. Entries are arranged in periods of three months,that is, Quarters. In the births I found only two families of Saviels and the deaths do not group at all except that one fits with one families of births and the others are both in places connected with the sea. The Entries are as follows: BIRTHS: 1837-1853 Dec.1842 Sarah Ann SaviellJne .1846 William SavielDec. 1847 Elizabeth SaviellJne. 1851 George SavielJne. 1853 Sarah Saviel DEATHS: 1837-1865 Rochdale 21 619 Downham 13 74 Rochdale 21 671 Downham 13 97 Halifax 9a 374 SAVIEL FAMILY HISTORY From BRITISH INDIA AND BURMA To PERTH WESTERN AUSTRALIA By GEORGE THOMAS SAVIEL Dec. 1843 Ann Saviell Rochdale 21 461 Jne. 1846 John Saviell Medway 5 266 Jne.1853 George Saviel Stepney 1c 388 Rochdale is in Lancashire but I have checked the Mormon IGI for that county and it gives no help at all. Downham I believe is in East Anglia. I can obtain copies of any of these certificates if you wish but must pay 5 pounds for each. I am afaid none of this is conclusive. I could carry out a wider search of the Indian records of baptism if you wish since your ancestor said he was born there but there is no other place to look than where we have and it is known that the returns are not complete so that an entry for your ancestor may simply not be anywhere. Yours sincerely M.J. Gandy, 3 Church Crescent, In October 1988 Mr Grandy sent me a letter on his research on my family history saying he have sent me the two certificate that I asked for. The following is his letter dated 6 th of October 1988. Whetstone, London N20 0JR, England, October 6th 1988, Dear Mr Saviel, First, I enclose copies of the two certificates you asked for. I have not done anything to follow up the information contained in them but can easily do so if you wish. I have spent the rest of your money on research at the India Office and feel that I have found out useful things and clarified the position though I have to say I still cannot say who was the father of George Thomas Saviel.I enclose a photocopy of the catalogue of material for uncovenanted civil servants. He is not in the material they have at the Inaia Office. I searched the indexes for other Saviels and have set out a list of the entries found on a separate sheet. There are a lot in the 1930s of which I took no further details ( though I could do if you wish ): no doubt they are distance cousins of yours and it might be worth trying to trace their present whereabouts (probably in England ) to see if they know anything of their ancestry. The early entries look as though they descend from Manoel Saviel and Elizabeth De Cruz who were married Calcutta in 1770. They are clearly of Portuguses origin and catholics which explains why we are only finding them spasmodically in the India Office records which are primarily Church of England with a few voluntary SAVIEL FAMILY HISTORY From BRITISH INDIA AND BURMA To PERTH WESTERN AUSTRALIA By GEORGE THOMAS SAVIEL Catholic returns. One could hazard a guess that Thomas is the son of Manoel and that Maria is either a sister, sister-in-law or later wife, that Thomas is the father of George thomas and alaso of Moses and John Edward. Perhaps Mary (1812) is another child of Manoel. I search the application papers for the Indian Civil Service which are held by the Society of Genealogists and found an interesting entry from 1873. Calcutta and Portuguese Catholic. I feel fairly confident that the registers of that church and others of that community are not going to be available in England and advise you writing to Calcutta for information. I have not search the later 19th century births,marriages and deaths so there may be other Saviel entries which will help (particularly amongst the deaths). None of this makes for conclusive tree yet but I hope you will agree that we are making progress. The India Office Library naturally has some general books on the Portuguese in India but perhaps your local University library can do as well so I have not investigated these yet. I am very willing to continue if you would like to send some more money. Yours sincerely, M.J.Gandy Savial Louisa bur 1938. Saviel Albert bur 1940 aged 12. Alexander bur 23 Jne 1884 drowning under fit of epilepsy, Town Cemetery,Rangoon aged 20 N/1/290 f154. Alma Agnes 1938. Anthony Charles Edward bur 12 Jly 1861 Madras 2y 3m 14d s/o Moses.clerk and Eliza. Beryl Elizabeth 1938 marr. Caroline marr 23 Feb 1841 St James, Calcutta John Benjamin Rondeau wid writer N/1/61 f34. Christoper marr 1940. Constance T marr 1939. Edwin bur 21 Jly 1861 Madras 6 s/o Moses, clerk, and Eliza. Eliza Catherine bapt 29 Dec 1833 aged 30 at St John's Calcutta, a native woman of Calcutta,N/1/35 f215. Gabrial Matthew b 1940. Grace Mary marr 1942. Hazel Mary bapt 1939. Joseph Barney bapt 1930. Joseph Henry marr 1938. Lily bur 1939. SAVIEL FAMILY HISTORY From BRITISH INDIA AND BURMA To PERTH WESTERN AUSTRALIA By GEORGE THOMAS SAVIEL Manoel Saviel marr 8 Nov 1770 at the Mission Church, Calcutta, Elizabeth De Cruz N/1/3 f71. Maria bur 8 Oct 1845 Park St Burial Ground, Calcutta, aged 70 pauper N/1/68 f272. Catherine Mary marr 28 Feb 1829 Calcutta Cathedral to John Reid,printer (sh was under age) N/1/24 f25. Maud bur 1938. Priscilla Mary bapt 1936. Rosa Mary bapt 8 Sept 1861 b. 30 Aug d/o Moses,clerk ,and Eliza N/2/42 f177. Thomas marr 23 Nov 1811 Calcutta Charlotte Gomis N/1/8 f425. William Peter marr 30 Sept 1861. Eliza Richardson N/2/42 f224 26 clerk Dep Comm's office s/o John Edward. Yvonne Rita bapt. 1930. Saviell Ivy bur 1936. John bur 1936. Savyell Alfred Joseph bapt 1937. Barnsley Ignatius b 1937. Clarence Arthur Henry marr 1935. Cynthia Philomena bapt 1930. Kathleen Mercy bapt and bur 1936. Keith George bapt 1933. Leonard Winfield bapt 1939. May Marguerite marr 1939. Mervin John bapt 1936. Pamela Aileen bapt 1934. Rudolph John bapt 1939. Miss Mary Saviel marr Jne 6 1812 Calcutta to Mr George Williams. 1859 Mary Ann Saviel marr Benjamin Powel native. Bapt Feb 13 1835 Muktul b Jan 4 1834 William Peter s/o John Edward Saviel and Mary Ann his wife N/1/16/355. In June 2008 Mr J. Palmer a researcher in Sydney N.S.W Australia wrote to me with information on my family history that I ask for he said that he has research the India Record Office and the Burma Office at the British Library in London England and that he have found some Saviel but not my great grand father George Thomas Saviel . He had look for the marriage of his parents but did not find any SAVIEL FAMILY HISTORY From BRITISH INDIA AND BURMA To PERTH WESTERN AUSTRALIA By GEORGE THOMAS SAVIEL records for them in his search he will happy to research some more if I like to have done. The following is his letter to me dated the 25 of June 2008 to my home in Western Australia with some of his research notes. Mr G Saviel 22/49 Smith Street Highgate WA 6003 25th June 2008 Case ref 80508 Dear Mr Saviel, We have undertaken the research you required in regard to your ancestor’s origins in India. You were able to inform us that your ancestor, George Thomas Saviel,was thought to have been born in India in the period around 1827. For administrative purposes, India was divided into three areas or Presidencies-Madras,Bombay and Bengal. The baptisms,marriages and burials which took place within these three Presidences have each been indexed and copies of the original registers are held at the India Office Library, part of the British Library in London. We examined these indexes to see whether any reference to the baptism of George Thomas Saviel could be located. We found no entries for the surname Saviel, orvariant thereof, in the Bombay Presidency in the period 1825-1830. Searching the same time period in the other Presidencies, we found the baptism of Ellen Sevill in Madras in 1830 and a baptism for a John Savail in Bengal in 1827. Unfortunately,there were no likely entries for childrens of the name Saveiel , let alone a boy named George Thomas. As George’s baptism had eluded us,we wondered whether the marriage of his parents could be identified instead. We therefore looked for any Saviel,or variant, marriages in each of the three Presidencies for the period 1815-1830. We found a Captain JE Shaivel marrying in Madras to a woman named Hannah De Bergeon in 1829. There were no likely marriages in the Bombay Presidency at all . We found two possible marriages in Bengal though. The first of these was a John Sheviel marrying a woman named Flora in 1818 and the second was the marriage of a George Seville and Catherine Francis in 1828. Copies of these two marriages were obtained but it is unclear whether either relates to your own ancestry. Certainly the name Saviel did not appear in any of the baptismal or marriage indexes for the period in which your ancestor was though to have been born. Finally , we investigated the Biographical Card Index. This is an index of many hundreds of thounsands of references to people working and living in India at the time of the British administration. We found around SAVIEL FAMILY HISTORY From BRITISH INDIA AND BURMA To PERTH WESTERN AUSTRALIA By GEORGE THOMAS SAVIEL 30 entries for individuals of the name Saviel or Savyell but these all related to the period after the later 1860’s and did not seem relevant to the current research. It would appear that we have rather drawn a blank with our search for your ancestor’s baptism. It should be remembered that the records we have used relate only to the European community in India. Native Indians, or even the Angol-Indians are unlikely to be recorded with those records and it may be that your ancestor falls into one of these categories. I am sorry that we could not provide you with a more positive outcome to this research. If we can be of any assistance in regard to any further aspect of your family history, please do not hesitate to contact us. Yours sincerely, Jeremy Palmer, B.A.,Dip.Gen. Researcher In December 1986 a researcher name Archie McMillan sent me a letter thanking me for sending money to him for researching my family history and he sent me his research say that he have found the record of my great grand father George Thomas Saviel occupation in the Thackers Directories in the British Library in London England . The following is his letter dated the 18th of December 1986 that he sent to me in Australia and he said merry christmas for 1987 and the research he had done for me. 3,Milton Avenue, Wescott, Dorking,Surrey, U.K., RH4 3QA. 18th December ,1986. Dear Mr. Saviel, Thank you very much for your letters of 5th September, with cheque, and 7th september. I am Enclosing notes on career of G.T.Saviel taken from Thacker's Directories. I have been SAVIEL FAMILY HISTORY From BRITISH INDIA AND BURMA To PERTH WESTERN AUSTRALIA By GEORGE THOMAS SAVIEL unable to find entries for his baptism, marriage and Burial having covered: Bengal/Madras/Bombay, Baptisms, 1826-28. Marriages, 1872-74. Bengal, Burials, 1886-97. In the course of research I noted the following entries which you may recognise as members of you family: IOR/N/1/242/206. Died 1 Jan, buried 2 Jan 1895 at allahabad. Eleonor Savielle, aged 62. IOR/N/1/244/274. Died 12 July ,buried 13 July 1895 at .... Calcutta. John Enos Savaille, 41 years 7 Months 6 days, Preventive Service. IOR / 1/256/151. Died&buried 2 Mar 1897 at Allahabad. Orpheus Adolphus Savielle, 34 ,Head Master Govt. High School. I should be very pleased to continue the burial search if you could let me have a further payment . Yours sincerely, Archie McMillan. P.S. Best wishes to you for Christmas and 1987. G.T.SAVIEL Thackers Directories. Assistant Accountant, Chief Engineers Office, Rangoon. 250 Rupees (1863). Central Office of P.W. Accounts,Rangoon. 200 Rupees (1864-65). Accountant, Do. (1866). P.W.D. Prome Division, Theyetmyo (1867-70). P.W.D. Prome (in the Pegu Division).290 Rupees (1871-72). P.W.D. Rangoon Town Division,Rangoon (1873). Sub Overseer, Rangoon Garrision Division P.W.D. (1874). Accountant, Thongzai Division P.W.D., 270 Rupees ( 1875). Executive Engineers Office P.W.D. , Tounghoo Division, Tounghoo. 240 Rupees (1876-80). P.W.D. Tharrawaddy Division, H.Q. Konitpore. 240 Rupees SAVIEL FAMILY HISTORY From BRITISH INDIA AND BURMA To PERTH WESTERN AUSTRALIA By GEORGE THOMAS SAVIEL (1881-82). 1883- No entry. Accountant, P.W.D. Pegu Division, Rangoon (1884). Jhansi-Manikpur State Rail;way, Examiners Office P.W.D.,Allahabad (1885). P.W.D. Katni,E.I. Railway (1886). Executive of P.W.D. Military Works, Simla. 240 Rupees (1887-88). 1889- Not seen. 1890-No entry. NOTE: Salaries not indicated for some years. In August 1986 Archie McMillan sent me a letter thanking me for writing to him in March 1986 for research for my family history . In his letter he said that first he would have to search all records of Saviel in the India Record Office at the British Library in London, England and he would let me know what he has discovered in his research the following is his letter dated 3rd of August 1987 that he sent to me in Australia . 3 , Milton Avenue, Westcott, Dorking,Surrey, U.K. , RH4 3QA. 3rd August , 1987. Dear Mr. Saviel, Thank you very much for your letter of 12th March and cheque. I decided that the best way to conduct your research was to check all Saviel etc entries in baptismal,marriage and burial entries in Bengal, Madras and Bombay presidencies from the start of records. SAVIEL FAMILY HISTORY From BRITISH INDIA AND BURMA To PERTH WESTERN AUSTRALIA By GEORGE THOMAS SAVIEL To date I have checked forward to 1800 and enclose details ofentries found. I note that one entry you required is included. I am continuing from 1801 forwards and will write again shortly. Yours sincerely, Archie McMillan. SAVIEL etc Baptisms/ Marriages/Burials, Bengal 17131800. Madras 1698-1800. Bombay 1709-1800. IOR/N/3/1/36. Buried 13 Aug 1717 at Bombay. William Sevil, Trooper. IOR /N/3/1/399.Buried 13Nov 1755, on Bombay. John Sevil ,Seaman. IOR /N/3/1/419. Buried 28 Nov 1756 on Bombay . Thomas Savil, Captain Skiddy's Company. IOR/N/1/2/7. Bap 20 Jan 1765 at Mission Church,Calcutta. Sabiel,aged 10 years . Parents:_ _ _ _ _ . Godfather: Joseph Rebiero. IOR/N/1/3/78. Buried 20 Oct 1770 at Mission Church, Calcutta. Saviel, 2 years. IOR/N/1/3/71. Married 8 Nov 1770 at Mission church, Calcutta. Manuel Saviel & Elizabeth de Cruz. IOR/N/2/1/ 851. Buried 2 Nov 1781 at Saint Mary, Fort St. George. SAVIEL FAMILY HISTORY From BRITISH INDIA AND BURMA To PERTH WESTERN AUSTRALIA By GEORGE THOMAS SAVIEL William Servel, Seaman. In 1987 Mr Archie McMillan wrote to me about his research on my family history and that he has search the records from 1800 and that he would research records from 1840 if I would send him some money to continue the search . The following is his letter to me in Australia dated the 7th of September 1987 and he sent me what he have found for me in his search. 3,Milton Avenue, Wetcott, Dorking,Surrey, U.K. , RH4 3QA. 7th September, 1987. Dear Mr. Saviel, Further to my letter of 3rd August I have now covered to 1840 but this time have not included the Savill(e) variants of Saviel as the are rather numerous. Details of Saviel entries are enclosed. I have now used up funds in hand. I should be very pleased to continue, from 1841 onwards, if you can let me have a further payment. Yours sincerely, Archie McMillan. The following are documents that I have found on the internet on the research of my family history that I have done in the past 12 months . They are taken from the records listed from the India Record Office at the British Library in London England. I have recorded all the Births, SAVIEL FAMILY HISTORY From BRITISH INDIA AND BURMA To PERTH WESTERN AUSTRALIA By GEORGE THOMAS SAVIEL Baptists,Marriages & Death and Burials of all Saviel,Savile,Saville ,Savil listed on the records in the British Library. The following is that documents. Records from The Oriental and India Office at the British Library. Marriages Deaths Names are ,allowing for interpretation of handwriting,as they appear in the registers even where known to be misspelt. BIRTHS Name Parents Savale Mary Julia dau of James Derek & June Date of Birth date of Baptism where Baptised 1.7.1834 10.5.1835 Vizagapatam. Savail John son of George & Mary Date of Birth date of Baptism Where Baptised 16.12.1827 Barracpore. Savell Henry Frane Dalrymple son of Henry Fane Haylell & Violett Anna Date of Birth date of Baptism Where Baptised 17.5.1862 11.6.1862 St.George'sCathedrall,Madras. Saviel William Peter son of John Edward & Mary Ann Date of Birth Date of Baptism Where Baptised 4.6.1834 13.2.1835 Muklul. Saviel Benjamin son of John Edward & Mary Ann Date of Birth date of Baptism Where Baptised 27.6.1838 12.12 1838 Elichpoor. Saviel Christiana dau of John Edward & Mary Ann Date opf Birth date of Baptism Where Baptised 4.5.1840 21.9.1842 Madras. Saviel Mary Ann Susan dau of John Edward & Mary Ann. Date of Birth Date of Baptism Where Baptised 13.6.1844 25.8.1844 Madras. Saviel Samuel Wilkinson son of John Edward & Mary Ann. Date of Birth Date of Baptism Where Baptised 1.10.1846 6.12.1846 Nunpunty. Saviel A.J.Francis son of Moses & Eliza Date of Birth Date of Baptism Where Baptised 5.4.1853 25.8.1853 Madras. Saviel E.W.Joseph son of Moses & Eliza Date Of Birth Date of Baptism Where baptised 6.9.1854 14.3,1855 Madras. SAVIEL FAMILY HISTORY From BRITISH INDIA AND BURMA To PERTH WESTERN AUSTRALIA By GEORGE THOMAS SAVIEL Saviel Anthony Charles Edward son of Moses & Eliza Date of Birth Date of Baptism Where Baptised 28.4.1859 8.9.1861 Madras. Saviel Rosa Mary dau of Moses & Eliza Date of Birth Date of Baptism Where Baptised 30.8.1861 8.9.1861 Madras. Saviel Francesca dau of Moses & Eliza Date of Birth Date of Baptism where Baptised 20.3.1863 25.3.1863 Madras. Saviel Rose dau of Laurence & Frances Date of Birth Date of Baptism Where Baptised 12.9.1863 18.10.1863 Vizagapatam. Saviel Joseph Ignatius Victor son of Moses & Eliza Date of Birth Date of Baptism Where Baptised 16.3.1864 13.4.1864 Madras. Saviel Abraham Joseph John son of Moses & Eliza Date of Birth Date of Baptism Where Baptised 28.1.1866 21.2.1866 Madras. Saviel Helen Alvertine dau of William & Eliza Date of Birth Date of Baptism Where Baptised 29.3.1866 2.11,1866 Oomrawatee. Saviel Mary Jane adopted dau of William & Eliza Date of Birth Date of Baptism Where Baptised 29.5.1866 14.6.1867 Oomrawatee. Saviel Bridget Evaline dau of Abraham & Adelaide Date of Birth Date of Baptism Where Baptised 29.3.1867 10.6.1867 Madras. Saviel William edmond son of William & Eliza Date of Birth Date of Baptism Where Baptised 6.9.1868 30.11.1868 Ootacamund. Saviel Ellena Agatha dau of William & Rose Date of Birth Date of Baptism Where baptised 17.1.1869 17.4.1869 Bengall. Saviel Matilda Celestina dau of Abraham & Adelaide Date of Birth Date of Baptism Where Baptised 19.1.1869 31.1.1869 Madras. Saviel Alice Maud dau of Abraham & Adelaide Date of Birth Date of Baptism Where Baptised 27.5.1870 22.7.1870 Bangalore. Savielle Emile Athanas son of George Athanas & Eleanor Date of Birth Date of Baptism where Baptised 29.1.1871 11.3.1871 Bengall. Saviel Chrisianah dau of Gabriel & Catherine SAVIEL FAMILY HISTORY From BRITISH INDIA AND BURMA To PERTH WESTERN AUSTRALIA By GEORGE THOMAS SAVIEL Date of Birth Date of Baptism Where Baptised 12.4.1872 12.4.1872 Madras. Saviel Susan dau of Daniel & Varah Date of Birth Date of Baptism Where Baptised 4.9.1872 24.9.1872 Madras. Saviel Arthur Henry son of Abraham & Adelaide Date of Birth Date of Baptism where Baptised 21.8.1873 23.9.1873 Madras. Saviel Frederick Lovrick son of Abraham & Adelaide Date of Birth Date of Baptism Where Baptised 21.8.1873 23.9.1873 Madras. Saviel Wentworth Tallent son of Albert & Alice Grace Date of Biorth Date of Baptism Where Baptised 6.9.1885 18.12.1885 St. Andrews Church,Madras. Saviel Albert son of Albert & Alice Grace Date of Birth Date of Baptism Where Baptised 22.7.1888 22.7.1888 St. Andrews Church,Madras. Savielie Osmond Newbigging son of Albert Joseph & Evangeline Kohlhoff Date of Birth Date of Baptism where Baptised 25.9.1889 5.10.1889 St. Matthias Church,Madras. Saville Fanny dau of richard & Sarah Date of Birth Date of Baptism Where Baptised 1.7.1812 20.6.1812 St.Thomas Mount,Madras. Saville Susan dau of Richard & Sally Date of Birth date of Baptism Where Baptised 8.6.1814 22.7.1814 Seringapatam. Saville Henry son of James & Moujoy Date of Birth Date of Baptism Where Baptised 22.2.1815 1.3.1815 Bangalore. Saville Maria Louisa dau of James & Jane Date of Birth Date of Baptism Where Baptised 10.1.1830 26.1.1830 St. Mary's Church,Madras. Saville Francis James son of Francis & Hellen Date of Birth Date of baptism Where Baptised 16.10.1834 30.3.1835 Yagpore. Saville John Ellis son of Francis & Ellen Date of Birth Date of Baptism Where Baptised 5.11.1836 5.12.1836 Yagpore. Saville John Alexander son of Andrew & Susannah Date of Birth Date of Baptism Where Baptised 30.11.1837 6.3.1845 Madras. Saville william Peter son of John Edward & Mary Ann Date of Birth Date of Baptism Where Baptised SAVIEL FAMILY HISTORY From BRITISH INDIA AND BURMA To PERTH WESTERN AUSTRALIA By GEORGE THOMAS SAVIEL 4.6.1834 13.3.1835 Muklul. Saville Caroline Agnes dau of Andrew & Susannah Date of Birth Date of baptism Where Baptised 28.11.1841 12.6.1842 Misson church,Vepery,Madras. Saville Louisa Patience dau of Andrew & Susannah Date of Birth Date of Baptism Where Baptised 28.11.1841 12.6.1842 Misson Church,Vepery,Madras. Saville Matilda Alice dau of Andrew & Susannah Date of birth Date of Baptism where Baptised 2.10.1843 6.3.1845 Madras. Saville Alexander Ebernezer son of John Alexander & Susannah Date of Birth Date of Baptism Where baptised 13.7.1864 3.8.1864 Chris Church,Madras. Saville Susannah Amelia dau of John Alexander & Susannah Date of Birth Date of Baptism Where baptised 8.9.1865 18.10.1865 Mount Road, Madras. Saville Alfred Ernest son of John Alexander & Susannah Date of Birth Date of Baptism Where Baptised 15.6.1868 12.8.1868 Mount Road,Madras. Saville Elizabeth dau of John Alexander & Susannah Date of Birth Date of Baptism Where Baptised 7.6.1871 30.8.1871 Mount Road,Madras. Saville Louisa Patience dau of John Alexander & Susannah Date of Birth Date of Baptism Where Baptised 7.11.1874 30.11.1874 Mount Road, Madras. Saville Estelle Newbigging dau of Albet & Eva Date of Birth Date of Baptism Where Baptised 3.8.1891 13.9.1891 St.Matthias Church,Madras. Saville Merlin Newbigging dau of Albert & Eva Date of Birth Date of Baptism Where Baptised 25.5.1894 7.7.1894 St.Thomas Mount,Madras. Saville Amy Marian dau of William James & Amy Birtha Clare Date of Birth Date of Baptism Where Baptised 13.2.1899 28.2.1899 Trimulgherry. Saville Margaret Gore dau of William James & Amy Birtha Clare Date of Birth Date of Baptism Where Baptised 11.9.1900 29.9.1900 Trimulgherry. Saville Bridget Birryl dau of Wentworth Tallent & Mary Ellen Date of Birth Date of Baptism Where Baptised 8.9.1910 8.3.1910 St.Andrew's Church,Madras. Saville Aileen Mary dau of Wentworth J.P. & Mary Ellen Date of Birth Date of Baptism Where Baptised 15.9.1912 17.10.1912 St.Andrew's Church,Madras. SAVIEL FAMILY HISTORY From BRITISH INDIA AND BURMA To PERTH WESTERN AUSTRALIA By GEORGE THOMAS SAVIEL Saville Charles Arthur Balfour son of Harvey Mathew & Hilda Staunton Date of Birth Date of Baptism Where Baptised 29.10.1915 5.12.1915 Christ Church, Madras. Saville Clara Violet dau of Henry Mathew & Hilda Staunton Date of Birth Date of Baptism Where Baptised 20.9.1920 29.10.1920 Christ Church,Madras. Saville Albert Osmond son of Osmond & Edith Florence Date of Birth Date of Baptism Where Baptised 20.2.1921 13.3.1921 Coonoor. Sevill Ellen dau of Joseph & Martha Date of Birth Date of Baptism Where Baptised 5.10.1838 Trichinpoly. Mariages b=bachelor s=spinster w= widow/widower Name Name of Spouse Saval George Dirk (w) Louisa Anne Clark (s) Date Father of Groom 6.1.1834 Father of Bride. Name Name of Spouse Savelle James (w) Jane Watson (w) Date Father Of Groom 22.12.1828 Father of Bride. NameSaviel Manoel () Date8.11.1770 Father of Bride. NameSaviel Thomas (b) Date23.9.1811 Father of Bride. Name Name of Spouse Elizabeth de Cruz () Father of Groom Name of Spouse Charlotte Gomes (s) Father of Groom Name of Spouse Saviel Benjamin Peter (b) Mary Wilkinson Date17.4.1832 Father of Bride. Father of Groom Name Name of Spouse SAVIEL FAMILY HISTORY From BRITISH INDIA AND BURMA To PERTH WESTERN AUSTRALIA By GEORGE THOMAS SAVIEL Saviel John Edward (b) Mary Ann Ogden(w) Date Father of Groom 19.12.1833 Father of Bride. Name Name of Spouse Saviel George Thomas(b)21 Sophia Mary Morley(s) 15 Date Father of Groom 10.1.1853 George Saviel Father of Bride William Morley. Name Name of Spouse Saviell Thomas (w) 42 Mary Mathews (w) (36) Date Father of Groom 24.11.1858 Manuel Saviell Father of Bride Anthony Gomifs. Name Name of Spouse Saviel Catherine (s) (minor) Francis D’Silva (b)(full age) Date Father of Groom 20.10.1859 John D’Silva Father of Bride Feliciino Saviel. Name Name of Spouse Saviel Mary Ann(s)(minor) Benjamin Powel(b)(Full Age) Date Father of Groom 14.12.1859 ? Father of Bride John Saviel. Name Name of Spouse Saviel William Peter(b)(26) Eliza Richardson Date Father of Groom 30.9.1861 John Edward Saviel Father of Bride Joseph Richardson. Name Name of Spouse Saville Matilda Alice(s)(20) William Walker(b)(21) Date Father of Groom 5.10.1864 William Walker Father of Bride Andrew Saville. SAVIEL FAMILY HISTORY From BRITISH INDIA AND BURMA To PERTH WESTERN AUSTRALIA By GEORGE THOMAS SAVIEL Name Name of Spouse Saviel Janet Eliza(s) (under Age) Charles Frank Myers(b) (of age) Date10.8.1868 Father of Bride George Saviel. NameSaviel John(b) (21) Date6.10.1869 Father of Bride John Hibbits. Name Father of Groom Martin Myers Name of Spouse Margaret Hibbit (s)(15) Father of Groom Francis Saviel Name of spouse Saviel Henrietta Florentine(s)(under age) Thomas Constatine Whittenbaker(b) (of age) Date Father of Groom 21.10.1874 Thomas Whittenbaker Father of Bride William Saviel. Name Name of Spouse Saviel Albert(b)(30) Alice Grace Tallent(s)(22) Date Father of Groom 18.12.1884 Moses Saviel Father of Bride James Tallent. Name Name of spouse Saviel Agnes Aurora(s)(17) Archibald Marcellius(b)(26) Date Father of Groom 3.8.1890 Tapoleou Marcellius Father of Bride James Saviel. Name Name of Spouse Saviel Josephine (s)(33) Stephen Dragoon(w)(48) Date Father of Groom 19.12.1884 John Dragoon Father of Bride William Saviel. Name Name of Spouse SAVIEL FAMILY HISTORY From BRITISH INDIA AND BURMA To PERTH WESTERN AUSTRALIA By GEORGE THOMAS SAVIEL Saviel Albert(w)(34) Evangeline Kohlhoff Newbigging(s)(28) Date Father of Groom 26.9.1888 Moses Saviel Father of Bride Robert James Newbigging. Name Name of Spouse Saviel Sophia Mary(w)(52) Henry Maseyk Joseph(w)(64) Date Father of Groom 22.5.1894 Anton J. Joseph Father of Bride William Morley. Name Name of Spouse Saviel John William Saviel(b)(30) Caroline Adelaide Jane Patterson(s)(17) Date Father of Groom 29.1.1895 William Mathew Saviel Father of Bride George William Sam Patterson. Name Name of Spouse Savielle Adulph Orphy(b)(34) Ellen Mary Carville(w)(26) Date Father of Groom 29.1.1895 George Athanas Savielle Father of Bride John james Whitley. Name Name of Spouse Saviel Ruth Amilda(s)(20) Albert Christopher Hart(b)(26) Date Father of Groom 11.5.1904 Charles Edward Hart Father of Bride John Alexander Saviel Name Name of Spouse Saville James Henry(w)() Sophia Devaney(w)() Date Father of Groom 5.6.1833 Father of Bride . Name Name of Spouse Saville John Alexander(b)(23) Charlotte Fallon(w)(26) SAVIEL FAMILY HISTORY From BRITISH INDIA AND BURMA To PERTH WESTERN AUSTRALIA By GEORGE THOMAS SAVIEL Date11.7.1860 Father of Bride Stephen Pereira. NameSaville John(w)(26) Date11.5.1863 Father of Bride John Lee. Name Father of Groom Andrew Saville Name of Spouse Susannah Lee(s)(18) Father of Groom Andrew Saville Name of Spouse Saville Matilda Alice(s)(20) William Walker Date Father of Groom 5.10.1864 William Walker Father of Bride Andrew Saville. Name Name of Spouse Saville John Alexander(w)(43) Mary Devaney(w)(35) Date Father of Groom 28.4.1880 Andrew Saville Father of Bride William Kirk. Name Name of Spouse Saville Alexander Robert(b)(21) Elizabeth Florence Alores(s)(16) Date Father of Groom 18.7.1894 Gabriel Saville Father of Bride Francis Peter Alores. NameSaville George(b)(52) Date20.10.1905 Father of Bride William Hart. Name Name of spouse Louise Hay(w)(32) Father of Groom George Saville Name of Spouse Saville Wentworth Tallent(b)(23) Maty Ellen Laughlin(s)(18) Date Father of Groom SAVIEL FAMILY HISTORY From BRITISH INDIA AND BURMA To PERTH WESTERN AUSTRALIA By GEORGE THOMAS SAVIEL 16.9.1907 Albert Joseph Saville Father of Bride William Alexander Laughlin. Name Name of Spouse Saville Harvey Mathew(b)(27) Hilda Staunton Balfour(s)(23) Date Father of Groom 21.11.1908 Mathew Harvey Saville Father of Bride James Leslie Balfour. Name Name of Spouse Saville Estelle Newbigging(s)(19) Joseph Pascoe(b)(34) Date Father of Groom 24 .7.1911 William Pascoe Father of Bride Albert Saville. Name Name of Spouse Saville Merlin Newbigging(s)(18) George Henry Walker(b)(25) Date Father of Groom 18.11.1912 Thomas Walker Father of Bride Albert Joseph Saville. Name Name of Spouse Saville Osmond(b)(29) Edith Florence Sinclair(s)(17) Date Father of Groom 17.4.1920 Albert Joseph Saville Father of Bride Stephen Sinclare. Deaths Name Date of Death Saviel Peter 14.2.1852 Age at death Trade/profession about 90yr.old resident of Bolarunn. Date of Burial Cause of Death 15.2.1855 Old Age Location Bolarunn. Name Date of Death Saviel Alvertina 29.2.1852 Age at death Trade/Profession 87yr. Widow of the late Peter Saviel. SAVIEL FAMILY HISTORY From BRITISH INDIA AND BURMA To PERTH WESTERN AUSTRALIA By GEORGE THOMAS SAVIEL Date of burial1.3.1855 Location Madras. NameSaviel Charles PeterAge at death 4yr. Date of Burial11.9.1855 Location Secunderbad. NameSaviel ElizabethAge at Death 5yrDate of Burial4.6.1855 Location Madras. Name Cause of death old age Date of death 10.9.1855 Trade/Profession Son of John Saviel(deceased) and Mary Ann his wife. Cause of Death Date of Death 3.6.18958 Trade/Profession dau of John Saviel. Cause of Death Cholera Date of death Saviel Anthony Chartes Edward 11.7.1861 Age at death Trade/Profession 2yr.3mth.14dy. Son of Moses Saviel/clerk/and Eliza his wife. Date of Burial Cause of Death 12.7.1861 Cholera Location Madras. Name Date of Death Saviel Edwin 20.7.1861 Age at Death Trade/Profession 6yr. Son of Moses Saviel/clerk/and Eliza his wife. Date of Burial Cause of death 21.7.1861 Cholera. Location Madras. Name Date of Death Saviel Mary Rose 14.8.1862 Age at death Trade/Profession 11mth.14dy. Dau of Moses Saviel/clerk/and Eliza his wife. Date of Burial Cause of Death 15.8.1862 Looseness. Location SAVIEL FAMILY HISTORY From BRITISH INDIA AND BURMA To PERTH WESTERN AUSTRALIA By GEORGE THOMAS SAVIEL Vepery,Madras. NameSaviel FrancescaAge at death 6dy. Date of burial26.3.1863 Location Madras. Name Date of death 26.3.1863 Trade/Profession Dau of Moses Saviel/clerk/and Eliza his wife. Cause of Death convulsions. Date of death Saviel Joseph Ignatious Victor 16.10.1867 Age at death 3yr.7mth. Date of Burial16.10.1867 Location Madras. NameSaviel Bridget AdelaidAge at death Date of burial26.10.1867 Location Madras. NameSaviel Helen AlvertinaAge at death Date of burial27.8.1868 Location Negapatam. NameSaviel Peter Age at death Date of Burial19.12.1870 Location Madras. NameSaviel Susannah Trade/Profession Son of Moses Saviel/clerk/and Eliza his wife. Cause of Death fever. Date of death 26.10.1867 Trade/Profession dau of Abraham Saviel /Apothacary & Adelaid his wife. Cause of Death fever. Date of Death 26.8.1868 Trade/profession dau of William Saviel & Eliza his wife. Cause of death bowel complaint. Date of death 18.12.1870 Trade/Profession printer. Cause of death sore in the leg. Date of death 19.11.1874 SAVIEL FAMILY HISTORY From BRITISH INDIA AND BURMA To PERTH WESTERN AUSTRALIA By GEORGE THOMAS SAVIEL Age at death Trade/Profession 1yr,3mth. Dau of Daniel Saviel/Drummer/and Sarah his wife. Date of burial Cause of Death 20.11.1874 dysentry. Location Madras. Name Date of Death Saviel Alfred Adulphus 7.9.1877 Age at death Trade/Profession 9yr. Son of Moses Saviel/clerk/and Eliza his wife. Date of burial Cause of death 8.9.1877 fever. Location Madras. Name Date of death Saviel William Edmond 29.1.1878 Age at death Trade/Profession 1yr,4mth. Nil Date of Burial Cause of death 29.1.1878 small pox. Location Amraoti. Name Date of death Saviel William 7.1.1882 Age at death Trade/Profession 49yr. Civil Pensioner Date of burial Cause of death 7.1.1882 dipptheria. Location Name Date of death Saviel Mary Florence 29.6.1883 Age at death Trade/Profession 4yr,9mth,2dy. Dau of Abraham Saviel Apothacary. Date of burial Cause of death 30.6.1883 fever. Location Madras. Name Date of death Saviel James 3.12.1886 Age at death Trade/Profession 9dy. Son of Albert Saviel & Alice his wife. Date of burial Cause of death SAVIEL FAMILY HISTORY From BRITISH INDIA AND BURMA To PERTH WESTERN AUSTRALIA By GEORGE THOMAS SAVIEL 3.12.1886 convultions. Location Madras. Name Date of death Saviel Albert 24.7.1888 Age at Death Trade/Profession 3dy. Son of Albert Saviel Government clerk & Alice Grace his wife. Date of burial Cause of Death 25.7.1888 premature birth. Location Madras. Name Date of death Saviel Alice Grace 28.7.1888 Age at death Trade/Profession 25yr,11mth,14dy. Wife of Albert Saviel Government clerk. Date of burial Cause of death 28.7.1888 consumption. Location Madras. Name Date of death Saviel Eliza 9.12.1896 Age at Death Trade/Profession 66yr,6mth. Date of burial Cause of death 10.12.1896 quinsee. Location Madras. Name Date of death Saville Bastian 16.7.1848 Age at death Trade/Profession Pensioned drummer. Date of burial Cause of death 17.7.1848 Location Bangalore. NameSaville Thomas EbernezerAge at death 1yr,3mth,19dy. Date of burial12.3.1851 Location Madras. Date of death 13.3.1851 Trade/Profession Son of Andrew Saville formerly a school master and Susannah his wife. Cause of death dysentry. SAVIEL FAMILY HISTORY From BRITISH INDIA AND BURMA To PERTH WESTERN AUSTRALIA By GEORGE THOMAS SAVIEL Name Date of death Saville Edward 2.11.1854 Age at death Trade/Profession 6yr,3mth. Date of burial Cause of Death 3.11.1854 Location St.Thomas Mount,Madras. NameSaville Louisa PalinaAge at death 15yr,4mth,23dy. Date of burial25.4.1854 Location Madras. NameSaville SusannahAge at death 35yrs. Date of burial8.12.1857 Location Madras. NameSaville EphranieAge at Death 23yr. Date of burial23.2.1860 Location Madras. NameSaville CharlotteAge at death 34yr. Date of burial4.7.1862 Location Madras. NameSaville John Date of death 24.4.1857 trade/Profession Dau of Andrew Saville& Susannah his wife. Cause of death consumption. Date of death 8.12.1857 Trade/Profession Wife of Andrew Saville printer. Cause of death consumption. Date of death 21.2.1860 Trade/Profession Cause of death Date of death 3.7.1862 trade/Profession Private 44th Regt. Wife of John Saville,printer. Cause of death dysentry. Date of death 4.11.1864 SAVIEL FAMILY HISTORY From BRITISH INDIA AND BURMA To PERTH WESTERN AUSTRALIA By GEORGE THOMAS SAVIEL Age at death 32yr. Date of burial5.11.1864 Location Madras. NameSaville GeorgeAge at death 38yr. Date of burial9.8.1866 Location Madras. NameSaville SusannahAge at Death 30yr,2mth. Date of burial19.11.1874 Location Madras. Name Saville J.A. Age at death 43yr. Date of burial29.5.1880 Location Washermanpe. Trade/Profession Cause of death Date of death 8.8.1866 Trade/Profession Discharged seaman. Cause of death found hanging with rope around his neck. Date of death 18.11.1874 Trade/profession Wife of John Alexander Saville. Cause of death childbirth. Date of death 29.5.1880 Trade/Profession Printer. Cause of Death dysentry. My Father Research part 2. The following are research letter that my father William Joe Saviel have found when he research his family history.The following letters are from people that help my father William Saviel with his search for SAVIEL FAMILY HISTORY From BRITISH INDIA AND BURMA To PERTH WESTERN AUSTRALIA By GEORGE THOMAS SAVIEL his family history . The following is a letter from U Tha Aung who as a boy know my fathers grandfather and father in Burma . And that George Thomas Saviel worked for the Public Works Dept. in Burma and that my grand father Edwin David Saviel married Daw Hmyin in Burma in 1903 . The following his his letter to my father dated the 31st January 1970 . To whom it may concerns: This is to certify that the late Edwin David Saviel of rangoon was known to me since I was a boy of 15 years old. He was the son of the late George thomas Saviel,a retired accountant from the Public Works Department,who after buying about 30 acres of Land came and settled down at Payathonzu Village in Pegu township until his death. Edwin's mother was Daw Hnin si and I know this family very well.They were devout Christians. Edwin was born in Toungoo and baptised at the American Baptist Mission Church in Pegu by Rev. M.C. Parish. He Married Daw Hmyin, a native of Payathonzu village. His daughter, Doris, who is now residing at No. 32,88th street, Rangoon , was born at Thingangyun near Rangoon. I am a native of pegu and 79 years old. Dated Pegu 31st January 1970. (U Tha Aung) Pastor, Baptist Church, Pegu. The following is the Affidavit from my father older sister Mavis Davies who said that she was a witness to SAVIEL FAMILY HISTORY From BRITISH INDIA AND BURMA To PERTH WESTERN AUSTRALIA By GEORGE THOMAS SAVIEL my father birth in 1921 in Pegu Burma and have sent this to my father it support of his claim for a British Passport. And that she is the sister of William Saviel the Affidavit was dated in May 1970. AFFIDAVIT I, Mavis Davies, daughter of late Edwin David Saviel, wife of Captain Arthur Davies,Pilot,U.B.A., Christian, residing at No.32,88th Street,Rangoon, on solemn affirmation state: (a) I say that I am the daughter of the late EDWIN DAVID SAVIEL and DAW HMYIN. (b) I say that WILLIAM SAVIEL for whom I am applying for registration of birth is my own brother, born of the same parents. ( c) I say that WILLIAM SAVIEL,my brother,was born at Payathonzu Village,Pegu Township. (d) I say that my said brother,WILLIAM SAVIEL,was born on the 4th day of December 1921. (e) I say that I was present at his birth. (f) I say that his birth was duly registered but the certificate of birth was lost due to circumstances arising out of the World War II. (g) I say that my application to the Registrar of births under Section 5 of the Births,deaths andMarriages Registration Act, 1943 is bonafide. I declare on solemn affirmation that the above statements are within my own knowledge and are therefore true and correct. Identified by (Mavis Davies) DEPONENT. On solemn affirmation so declared before me at Rangoon this day of May 1970. SAVIEL FAMILY HISTORY From BRITISH INDIA AND BURMA To PERTH WESTERN AUSTRALIA By GEORGE THOMAS SAVIEL MAGISTRATE. The following is a Affidavit made by my father William Saviel about his birth ,bapt, and the names of his parents and that he was born in Burma and that his parents was born in Burma that his grangfather was born in India and he was a European . That both his parents and grandparents are deceased . He made this Affidavit in support of his birth and for support for his application for a British Passport. The follow ing is that letter dated the 2nd of Febuary 1970. AFFIDAVIT I, William Saviel , son of late Mr.Edwin David Saviel, age 48 years old, Christian (Baptist), Draughtsman and Sculptor, residing at No.38,90th Street, Kandawgale,Rangoon on soleemn affirmation declare as follows: 1. That I was born at Payathonzu Village,Pegu Township, Pegu District, Burma on the 4th December 1921, and I Was baptised at Sagaing A.B.M. Church. 2. That my father, Edwin David Saviel , was born at Toungoo, Burma. He was an Anglo-Burese by race. 3. That my mother, Daw Hmyin ,was a native of Payathonzu Village,Pegu District, and she was born in the said village. 4. That my paternal grandfather, George Thomas Saviel ,an Accountant of the then P.W.D.,Burma, was said to been born in India and he settled down in Payathonzu Village Pegu District. He was an European by race. SAVIEL FAMILY HISTORY From BRITISH INDIA AND BURMA To PERTH WESTERN AUSTRALIA By GEORGE THOMAS SAVIEL 5. That my paternal grandmother, Daw Hnin Si ,was born at Thonze,Tharrawaddy District. 6. That both my parents and my said grandparents are deceased. 7. That I make this affidavit bonafide. W.Saviel DEPONENT Solemnly affirmed and subscribed before me atRangoon this 2nd day of February 1970. The following is the Translation of Marriage Deed. Of my parents made in 1969 from the Burmese records in Burma. My parents married in November 1953 in Burma but at that time they did not make a marriage Certificate. NOTARY PUBLIC Translation of:- MARRIAGE DEED. T.D.Serial No.O.S. 209 19-2-69 GOVERNMENT OF BURMA REVENUE STAMP TWO RUPEES Rs.2/-&Rs.1/( Two sheets.) This ,the 10th.day of November 1953,Tuesday, We, MG.Than(a)W.Saviel,aged 32, son of U Ba Kyi(a) E.D.Saviel and Daw Hmyin, residing at No.293,Barr Street,Rangoon and MA KYIN HTWE, aged 18, daughter of U. WIN and Daw Ngwe Sein,residing at No.152-34th.Street,Rangoon, with the consent of the SAVIEL FAMILY HISTORY From BRITISH INDIA AND BURMA To PERTH WESTERN AUSTRALIA By GEORGE THOMAS SAVIEL parents of both parties, according to the custom of Buddhists and by mutual consent, marry. In witness whereof we sign in presence of the undermentioned elders. Witnesses:1.( sd) Mya Maung. (sd) Mg.Than 2.(sd) Mg.Ohn. (The Bridegroom.) (sd) Ma Kyin Htwe. (The Bride.) The Bridegroom,MG.Than (a) W.Saviel and the Bride,MA KYIN HTWE, declare that they marry according to the custom of Buddhists and sign in my presence. (Sd.) Ohn Pe ? 10/11. District Magistrate, Seal of the Court of the District Magistrate, Rangoon. TRUE COPY Rangoon. The following is the Affidavit made my my mother Ma Kyin Htwe in it she say that she was born in Burma in 1935 and that her parents and grandparents all was born in Burma and that she is a citzen of Burma . The Affidavit was dated the January 1969 in Burma. AFFIDAVIT. SAVIEL FAMILY HISTORY From BRITISH INDIA AND BURMA To PERTH WESTERN AUSTRALIA By GEORGE THOMAS SAVIEL I, Ma Kyin Htwe (alias) Mary, age 34, daughter of U Win, Burmese, Christian by religion, housewife, residing at No.38,90th Street, Rangoon on solemn affirmation declare as follows: a) I was born at Kyaiktaw Village, Maubin District, Burma in the year 1935. b) My father, U Win, was a pure Burmese by race and nationality. c) My mother, Daw Ngwe Sein, was also a pure Burmese by race and nationality. d) My Paternal and maternal grandparents were all pure Burmese and they were of Maubin District. e) I am holding National Registration Card No. CD 120051. I declare that I am a citizen of the Union of Burma under Section 11(i) of The Constitution because both my parents and all my grandparents belonged to one of the indigenous races of the Union of Burma. I declare on solemn affirmation that the above statements are partly true to my own knowledge and partly based on information believed true and correct. Ma Kyin Htwe Identified by: DEPONENT. On solemn affirmation so declare before me at Rangoon this day of January 1969. MAGISTRATE. The Following is the Translation of Baptismal Certificate of my Father William Saviel who was baptised in 1932 age 11 years old in Sagaing Burma.The Baptismal Certificate was dated the 19th of February 1969. Translation of: -BAPTISMAL CERTIFICATE. T.D.Serial No. 0.S.208 19.2.69. BAPTISMAL CERTIFICATE. Serial No. 21. Where as WILLIAM SAVIEL , aged eleven years,son of Mr.E.D.Saviel and Daw Hmyin, on being examined and found fit by the Sagaing Congregation to be initiated into the Christian Faith and satisfactorily permitted so to enter, vows to uphold the Faith till his death. SAVIEL FAMILY HISTORY From BRITISH INDIA AND BURMA To PERTH WESTERN AUSTRALIA By GEORGE THOMAS SAVIEL On SUNDAY ,the 28th .February 1932 Christian Era, (Buddhists Era 13...., years,.......month,.......day,SUNDAY,) at Sagaing, I, U Yaw La, duly authorized Priest,hereby appoint and perform the Baptismal Ceremony in the name of the FATHER,the SON and the HOLY GHOST. (Sd.) Rev. Yaw La. (PASTOR). Signature of the Pastor. (SEAL) SAGAING BAPTIST CHURCH. (Sagaing Burman Baptist Church. SAGAING.) (Sd.) W.Saviel. Signature of the Baptised. TRANSLATION DEPT: Read on 19.2.69 Delivered on 25.2.69. CHIEF COURT OF BURMA True Translation. Sein Maung. Authorized Translator, Dated , the 25th February 1969. CHIEF COURT OF BURMA RANGOON. The following is a letter from British Oversea Airways Corporation sent to my mother living in Perth Western Australia about the payment of airfare to Australia that has been payed.The letter was dated the 22th of September 1971 . SAVIEL FAMILY HISTORY From BRITISH INDIA AND BURMA To PERTH WESTERN AUSTRALIA By GEORGE THOMAS SAVIEL BOAC BRITISH OVERSEAS AIRWAYS CORPORATION Incorporated in the United Kingdom Mrs M Saviel No.467 Beaufort Street Highgate Western Australia 6000 PER 2b 22 September 1971 Dear Mrs Saviel, Further to Mr Saviel's enquiry as to whether the refund on Doris Saviel's ticket had been credited to World Churches Council , Geneva we advise having received confirmation from Rangoon that this was effected on 08 July 1971. Thanking you, Yours sincerely, Lorraine Riley (Mrs) Reservations Assistant Terrace Arcade.42 William Street. Perth. Western Australia 6000 Telephone:21 6666 The following is the Baptismal Certificate of my grand father Edwin David Saviel who was Baptised in 1900 at the age of 24 in Pegu Burma . That his father was George Thomas Saviel .That he was born in 1876 in Toungoo Burma. The following is that Certificate from the records of the Burmese Baptist Church in Pegu Burma dated the 8th of October 1968 . SAVIEL FAMILY HISTORY From BRITISH INDIA AND BURMA To PERTH WESTERN AUSTRALIA By GEORGE THOMAS SAVIEL Pegu Burmese Baptish Church PEGU Baptismal Certificate This is to certify that Mr Edwin David Saviel Son/doughter of George Thomas Saviel Who was born on (10-3-1876.) Tenth march Eighteen Seventy six. And baptised by U Swe , Pastor, Pegu Baptish Church. Was received into the membership of the Pegu Burmese Baptish Church On the day of 4-6-1900 (Fourth June Nineteen hundred) Certified that the Baptismal Certificate has been prepared from the Church Records. Chil Maung 810 68 Chil Maung Decon of the Baptist Church Pegu. PEGU* BURMAN* BAPTIST * CHURCH* PEGU. Translation of: T.D. Serial no. O.S. 101 22.1.71. The following is the National Burmese ID Card for my Grand father Edwin David Saviel .Made in 1971 . Insignia UNION OF BURMA Identity Card TRANSLATION DEPT. Reg. No.101 SAVIEL FAMILY HISTORY From BRITISH INDIA AND BURMA To PERTH WESTERN AUSTRALIA By GEORGE THOMAS SAVIEL Date. 22.1.71 CHIEF COURT OF BURMA Serial No. AC 038020 Form { Rule 12(2) } RANGOON_DAGON Registration Serial No. AC 038020 City Police-Station Jurisdiction Ward Lloyd's Road/Street District Township Town/Village Quarter. 2 House No. 1 . Name. EDWIN SAVIEL 2.Father's name . GEORGE SAVIEL 3.Male/Female. 4.Date of birth ... 1240 (B.E.) 5.Native place and nationality ... Toungoo. 6. Occupation ... Dependent. 7. Matrimonial Status . ... Married. 8. Distinguishing Marks. ... Mole on the cheeks Applicant's Signature or Left Thumb Impression. Date. True Translation. (TET TUN ) Authorized Translator, Chief Court, Rangoon. Dated the 25th.January 1971. SAVIEL FAMILY HISTORY From BRITISH INDIA AND BURMA To PERTH WESTERN AUSTRALIA By GEORGE THOMAS SAVIEL Signed before me Record Keeper. Enumerator. Date. 14 JAN 1959 Sd. Signature of the Assistant Date. 14 JAN 1959 Registration Officer. sd/-Sa Win ENDORSEMENTS. Date. Remarks. Signature and Designation of the officer who endorses. Translation of; T.D. Serial No. O. S. 101 22.1.71. DIRECTIONS. 1. This Certificate shall be kept in custody of the holder and produced for inspection upon demand by authorised officer according to the proviions of Rule 29. 2. This Certificate shall not be transferred or delivered to any other person. 3. If this Certificate is lost, damaged, or deface, report shall be made to the Registrar concerned. 4. Whoever contravenes any of the above directions shall be prosecuted under section 6(2) of the Act and on conviction , shall be sentenced to imprisonment up to two years or fine up to K.500/- or both. N.B. - Nationality mention by the holder of this Certificate shall not be the conclusive proof that he in fact belongs to that nationality. TRANSLATION DEPT: Recd. On 22.1.71 Delivered on 27.1.71 CHIEF COURT OF BURMA SAVIEL FAMILY HISTORY From BRITISH INDIA AND BURMA To PERTH WESTERN AUSTRALIA By GEORGE THOMAS SAVIEL True Translation. (TET TUN ) Authorised Translator, Chief Court , Rangoon. Rangoon,dated the 25th.January 1971. - 220 words. - {-3:00. } 26.1.71 - TET TUN - 26/1 - Letters from My fathers Family & Friends. - The following are some letters that my father got - from family and friends about his family history research.The following letter is from Ronald Turner who was an old time friend of my father during world war two. - The following is his letter to my father living in Burma dated the 8th of Febuary 1967. Ronald Turner, Terminus 3300 “Ann Park” Extension 173 175,Colchester Road, Leyton ,E.10. Your reference: R/184/67 8th February 1967 Dear Sir or Madam, SAVIEL FAMILY HISTORY From BRITISH INDIA AND BURMA To PERTH WESTERN AUSTRALIA By GEORGE THOMAS SAVIEL Thank you for the courtesy of your letter dated 6th February 1967 regarding the search duly requested on behalf of Mr. William Saviel,and in accordance with scale charges, I am pleased to forward herwith my cheque for 2pounds,10.0d., to cover the search fee. I hope and pray your good efforts may be fruitful. No doubt you will wish to forward the requiste documents , if your search is a success direct to my dear wartime friend in Rangoon to his address as shown on his personal applications, but I should deem it a favour to be advised at your earliest convenience. With regards, Yours sincerely, The following is a letter sent to the India Record Office In London England by Ronald Turner om behalf of my father William Saviel living in Burma on his family history .The letter was dated the 18th of March 1967. The Officer in Charge, India Office Records, Commonwealth Office, King Charles Street, S.W.1. Saturday, 18th March 1967 My dearest Willie, As you know I wrote in reply to your last detailed letter advising you that I would make yet SAVIEL FAMILY HISTORY From BRITISH INDIA AND BURMA To PERTH WESTERN AUSTRALIA By GEORGE THOMAS SAVIEL another attempt to obtain some information regarding your application for a passport from the Commonwealth Office, but despite the further data provided in your letter, I'm afraid as you will see from the enclosed letter dated 10th of March, they are unable to find any records even fifty years beyond the periods given. I fear that even if you may have the Star of Burma, that Association will get no further than I in this matter, so that your approach may be just as discouraging , but by all means write to them ,if you feel they can help you in any way. I am so sad that this means your chances of getting to Australia may be so slender ,but who knows,may'be with your ability they may accept you as a Burmese, and later grant you nationalisation. I shall be glad to furnish you with a reference at any time whilst I am alive, so don't hesitate to ask me. Easter lies but a week off , but it would seem very encouraging for you and your dear wife and family ,and it would be perhaps rather pompous of me to tell you anew about the love of God as manifested in Jesus Christ, but when I am downcast and dispirited I know of no other source of comfort. Yet my words must seem empty now. At least I have done what best I can ,and can only presume that God has another plan for you Willie. What was it I mentioned about my beloved mother's passing ,''Father, not my will but thine be done” I know that some day I shall again hear from you ,my dearest friend, and until then I humbly commend you and your family into His care. God be with you till we meet again. Affectionately Ronnie x Ronald Turner, “Ann Park” Office telephone 175,Colchester Road, Terminus 3300 Extn 173 Leyton, E.10. In January 1967 Ronald Turner wrote to the India Record Office in London England for my father who was living in Burma about his family history and if they have any records for him . The letter was dated SAVIEL FAMILY HISTORY From BRITISH INDIA AND BURMA To PERTH WESTERN AUSTRALIA By GEORGE THOMAS SAVIEL 29th January 1967. 29th January 1967 Dear Sir, With reference to my telephone conversation with one of your assistants today, I am writing to your good offices on behaft of Mr William Saviel, residing at 39,90th Street, Kandawgalay P.O., Rangoon, Burma, a dear friend of long standing, whom I first met during my sojourn in India way back in the war years whilst serving in His Majesty’s forces at that time. It is his wish to endeavour to obtain a British passport at long last, due principally to the changes and problems of present day Burma, and he has asked me to act on his behalf in respect to the necessary forms in connection with establishing his parential identity. I understand that he has already sent off application forms for a valid certificate confirming the birth,baptism,marriage and citizenship of both his father and grandfather, but as he omitted to give the official marriage date of his father, he has forwarded two further personally signed letters, which I am enclosing herewith. I realise the difficulties ahead for him, but as and when that stage is reached for appropriate references , I shall be delighted to offer mine ,and would be willing to provide accommodation in my own house should this be a necessary step towards the achievement of his goal. No doubt you will kindly advise me in due course of any other action necessary in order that I may give him the utmost encouragement. Pto Should there be any difficulty , perhaps you would be good enough to ring me at my office, as this is the first time I have ever written to the Commonwealth Relations Office. Thanking you, Yours faithfully, The Secretary, India Office Records, Commonwealth Relations Office King Charles Street, Westminster, S.W.1. SAVIEL FAMILY HISTORY From BRITISH INDIA AND BURMA To PERTH WESTERN AUSTRALIA By GEORGE THOMAS SAVIEL Rangoon: In January 1971 My father wrote to Ronald Turner in England that it has been some time since he last wrote to him . It has been come the time to leave Burma for Australia. The following is my father letter to him dated 29th January 1971. January 29, 1971 My dear Ron, I have been silent for quite a lapse of time as my horoscope show significant change. Now , my grim days have passed as in the case of the darkest hours preceding dawn. I have obtained a Burmese Passport. In actual fact ,it is a Certificate of Identity with which I may leave Burma for good. My childern will be sitting for their final exam in February (on the 24th ). So I shall be leaving March. It would take only 3 days to fly to Perth ,with a day’s halt at Singapore. The passage for the whole family works up to K.7200/-. I am able to manage this ,but my main worry is our initial expenditure at Perth for two or three weeks before I get a proper job. Letters from your country state that jobs are plentiful. Burma Government allow only US $100.00 for travelling expenses. The rules are strict regarding foreign exchange and it will be a crime SAVIEL FAMILY HISTORY From BRITISH INDIA AND BURMA To PERTH WESTERN AUSTRALIA By GEORGE THOMAS SAVIEL to buy foreign money from tourists. Only the Government handles it. Ron, I guess once I put my foot on the golden soil of that land of inexhaustible mineral wealth , my enthusiasm will transform my persenality. Then I shall be able to invite you, with a return fare, to come and survey the wealth of King Solomon’s mines over there.re. I am very happy to hear about your promotion . One of these days, I hope you will be finding your lifre partner who will be as nearly good as your Mum and Dad. Then your success will be shared and enjoyed by both to a fuller degree. The Red Cross Sister seems to me to be able to win the prize. How is her illness-Pleurisy. I hope she is well by now. Don’t fail to visit her this spring. This reminds me of the old favourite song- “When it is spring time in the Rockys I am coming back to you” Ha! Ha! I long to see your Melbourne Friend – John Tomkin. Did he ever bring his Dad back home? What profession is he in now and what is his standard of income? Bertram is staying about 10 miles away from Rangoon. When I met him last, he said that would be following me next year when his childern will have graduated from the University. His address is : Capt. B. Hutton (retd): 19/B, 3rd Street, Thamadi Avenue, Thingangyun, Rangoon. He is a peculiar man and a rare personality but not up to the standard of broad mindedness of a Eurasian. With my kind regards to your brother’s family, W.Saviel No.32,88 Street, Kandawgalay P.O., Rangoon. Ronald Turner Esq. SAVIEL FAMILY HISTORY From BRITISH INDIA AND BURMA To PERTH WESTERN AUSTRALIA By GEORGE THOMAS SAVIEL “Ann Park” No. 175 Colchester Road, Leyton E.10. London (Eng.) The following is a letter from my father cousin living in Perth Western Australia. And letter from the Australian Immigration Department In Perth Western Australia to my father Cousin in Perth WA Australia . COMMONWEALTH OF AUSTRALIA DEPARTMENT OF IMMIGRATION 862 HAY STREET.PERTH, W.A. PHONE 21 9441 RLD:KJ In reply please quote w68/15568 13 th August, 1968 Dear Sir, I refer to an application for admission to Australia lodged in Rangoon by Mr. William Saviel and family. Their application has now been approved, subject to normal entry requirements,and on the basis of an accommodation guarantee being lodge at this office. If willing to lodge this guarantee, please complete the enclosed form and return it to this office. On receipt of this guarantee the Australian Embassy in Rangoon will be notified. Yours faithfully, Signed xxxxxxxxxx (S.B. Mackay ) COMMONWEALTH DIRECTOR OF MIGRATION FOR W.A. Mr. Wilbur A. Hodgson, 22 Longhurst Way, QUEENS Park, W.A. 6107 SAVIEL FAMILY HISTORY From BRITISH INDIA AND BURMA To PERTH WESTERN AUSTRALIA By GEORGE THOMAS SAVIEL Sunday afternoon, 8th October 1967 My dearest Willie, Since I last wrote to you I have not been at all well and thought that the long period of abdomenal discomfort had finally resolved itself for the worst , but thank the good Lord the hospital found the cause to be only an ulcerated colon, and now I am feeling so much better thanks to the right treatment.How good it is when one feels well-even life's tragedy becomes a little transformed. I have not long returned from paying my humble respects at my beloved parents graveside,where I left an assortment of the beautiful flowers that dear dad cultivated and grew. In my moments of loneliness my heart goes out to all those kind friends of the distant past who helped make life so much happier. And as I think of the contents of your last wonderful letter I know now that our meeting was not mere chance, for of truth all things work together for good to them that love God-yes even if that love is so often faulity and inconstant! I am deeply moved by your words and by your king hearted offer. All my days I will remember your generous invitation and shall love your Soul for its creation. Of course I could never accept so great a gift , but I have already accepted it for its spiritual significance. You will find that when you reach Australia you will need every penny. Moreover , your wife and four childern will take up more than all this. May God ever bless you for so precious a feeling and so sincere a thought. I had often wanted to visit Burma,and sometime dreamed I had in fact done so, but how can one do all this in three weeks- by air it might be possible, and indeed if it were reasonable I would have paid my own fare, but I believe it would be far too expensive . Should you ever bump into Arthur Davis , you could ask him about it as he worked for the Burma Airways, but I think we must leave this to our private dream world. It was so gratiying to know that my letter Arrived at the same time as the one from the Foreign Office. Since my letter of thanks to the Commonwealth Department, I received a copy of another letter forwarded to the Records Office in Delhi which suggests that they are at long last on the right track, and I have inner confidence that soon your quest will be attained. I pray God this be so. Who knows may’be I might come out there too. Today I am entirely alone in my way of living , and apart from the nevessity of earning my living there is little purpose left for me . Had my nature been otherwise then I would have ‘found that thief’ who stole my rib, and then of course , I wouldn’t have much time for introspection and ideals, but we are all made different for reasons best know to the Creator. As it is , I am uncertain about what is right or best for me. I had intended to sell my house and buy a modern flat nearer to the office in North London. It was a very expensive flat but with a wonderful view over the whole of SE London, but owing to my ill health, depression and sudden fear I cancelled the deal at the very last moment. However the vendor (the young man who was selling the flat ) wrote me a nice letter, and it was so encouraging to read such friendly words. Not every person in business is hard or mercinery. As it is, I suppose there was a reason behind it, although now that I am feeling so much myself, I could reconsider the situation, but I shall make no plans until the winter is over. I did think about letting upstaits, and in fact a neighbour knew of two civil servants who would have been glad to live here, but I cannot make up my mind. I have been used to being alone for too SAVIEL FAMILY HISTORY From BRITISH INDIA AND BURMA To PERTH WESTERN AUSTRALIA By GEORGE THOMAS SAVIEL long it seems . Still I hope that I do the right thing in the end. Thank you for remembering me to our Common friends. How wonderful and how fortunate we are to have a memory. I hope we shall not lose it when we go into eternity . I am so pleased that Bertrand still keeps in touch with you and am glad to tell you that he has also written to me at long last. I am sorry he has given up his job in the British Embassy. Modern politics and the inevitable wind of change has affected most of us in some way or other, but life was never intended to be anything other than a testing ground for some higher purpose, and though we may not reach our target we shall be judged by the manner in which we fight and endure defeat. God bless you all Affectionately, Ronnie. Ronald Turner, “Ann Park” 175,Colchester Road, Leyton, E.10 London England Mr. William J. Saviel No. 38, 90th Street, Kandawgalay P.O. RANGOON , BURMA. In 1983 my father cousin in England wrote to my father who was living in Australia saying that it has been a long time since he had written to him . He wanted to know how my father was doing in Australia and that he might one day visit him . His family is doing well in England and that one of his son has donot being in contact with him for some time. The following is his letter to my father and mother living SAVIEL FAMILY HISTORY From BRITISH INDIA AND BURMA To PERTH WESTERN AUSTRALIA By GEORGE THOMAS SAVIEL in Australia . The letter was dated the 12th of September 1983 . Mr & Mrs W. Saviel 23 Calvert Way,Girrawheen, Perth WA 6064 Western Australia My dear Joe & Mary, 12 September 1982 I have not forgotten you two in my thoughts, although I have taken sometime to write. Thank you for the trouble & time you took to make Kittys & my visit so enjoyable. I only wish we could have spent a longer time in Perth W.A. so that at least I could re-learn my Burmese once again and become as profiecent as I once used to be. However, circumstances did not permited but as you probably know I have applied for a permanant setters visa and if that is granted you will see me back in Perth once again . I am really very keen on settling over there as ,so far ,it is best place that I have ever been to in my 56 years of life. Also I have so many of my dear relatives and quite a few friends too who seem to be so happy to be living there. In England the weather is the biggest drawback and in general the English people are not very friendly. Although , once you get to know them they are not too bad,but there again they never forget and will never let you forget that you are a foriegner in thier country. At the present I am decorating my house in the hope that once everything is ok I can sell it for a good price and be able to transfer enough of my capital to give me a good start. It is not easy ,as the weather is bad and from now on it will get worse until winter is over some time in March or April next year. But I have no choice and cannot change the weather so I will just try my best. My daughter Hilary and my son Ronald are both riether sad to hear that I will be leaving here(if posible) but they realise that I am not happy and must try to do something about it before it is too late ,my other son Ken does not speak to me and has not been in touch with me since Jan 1977, although, I have seen him a couple of times. Well ,that is the way things are so I just leave them as they are. It is no use banging your head against a brick wall it only hurts more. Give my love to all the childern and maybe when you get a chance to write to me you will mention thier names once again. Well Joe , I have thought about your problem of the dough and I can only say that since you cannot get the dough to the settler the settler will have to be brought to where the dough is going to be settled out and then maybe you will find the answer. SAVIEL FAMILY HISTORY From BRITISH INDIA AND BURMA To PERTH WESTERN AUSTRALIA By GEORGE THOMAS SAVIEL Until you hear from me again I hope that life is kind to you both and to your family and until we meet once again I bid you farewell and may God Bless you all , Love Gerald. G.G. Davies, 7 Collingwood Avenue, Enfield,Middlesex, ENG 7 D K The following is a letter from the Immigration Department in Perth Western Australia to my father who was living in Perth WA Australia in 1973 about the application of Immigration of his Brother-in Law Henry Dallah and my fathers sister Doris Hazel Dallah to come to Australia in 1973. The following is that letter from the Immigration Department to my father William Saviel the letter was dated the 23rd of November 1973 . IMMIGRATION LETTERS. TELEGRAMS:PASSPORTS'S PERTH. TELEPHONE: 250521. In reply please quote W68/20173.GH:KH. DEPARTMWNT OF IMMIGRATION. WAPET HOUSE, 12-14 St.George'sTwrrace, SAVIEL FAMILY HISTORY From BRITISH INDIA AND BURMA To PERTH WESTERN AUSTRALIA By GEORGE THOMAS SAVIEL PERTH, W.A. 6000. 23rd NOV. 1973. Dear Mr. Saviel, Your application for the admission into Australia of your brother-in-law, Mr . Saw Dallah, his wife Doris Hazel and childern, has been received and has been sent to the Australian Embassy in Rangoon in order to establish whether they are able to meet normal requirements for intending migrants. It will be necessary for them to meet these requirements before a visa to enter Australia can be granted. They will be called for interview in due course and we will notify you if it is not posible to approve thier application. It is recommended therefore that no steps be taken to make travel arrangements or any other commitments until Mr.Dallah has been informed that a visa will be granted. In the event that you wish to cancle this application at any stage, you should inform this office immediately so that our representative in Rangoon may be instructed not to grant travel facilities. It should be understood, however, that if a visa to enter Australia has already been granted, you will still be bound by any guarantees you have furnished in this matter. Yours sincerely, (W. S. Alesopp) for REGIONAL DIRECTOR MR. .W.SAVIEL 41 Bronte Street, EAST PERTH , W.A. 6000. TO BE COMPLETED IN DUPLICATE M58A 19-10-73 SAVIEL FAMILY HISTORY From BRITISH INDIA AND BURMA To PERTH WESTERN AUSTRALIA By GEORGE THOMAS SAVIEL ACCOMMODATION DECLARATION I, WILLIAM SAVIEL of No. 41 ,Bronte Steet , EAST PERTH, W.A. 6000 (a) hereby undertake to provide suitable accommodation for the undermentioned person/s for a period of twelve months from the date of his/her/thier arrival in Australia. *OR (b) declare it to be my belief that the undermentioned person/s will be able to transfer to Australia, free of encumbrance, sufficient funds ( not being less than $A2,500 or its equivalent) to enable him/her/them to use as a deposit for the purpose of suitable accommodation upon arrival in Australia. Person/s on whose behalf declaration is being made: SAW DALLAH DORIS HAZEL DALLAH DAVID DALLAH NIGEL DALLAH Signature ................................. Date......................... Witness............................................ · * Delete whichever is inappropriate. The following is the application of my fathers brother Bertram Henry Saviel and his family to Immigrate to Australia in 1971 that my sent to the Immigration Department in Perth Western Australia for his brother who was living in Burma. SAVIEL FAMILY HISTORY From BRITISH INDIA AND BURMA To PERTH WESTERN AUSTRALIA By GEORGE THOMAS SAVIEL COMMONWEALTH OF AUSTRALIA - Migration Act 1958-1966 Form M.40 NOMINATION FOR ENTRY TO AUSTRALIA TO THE NOMINATOR- Please Read Carefully (a) All questions in this form are asked for sound reasons conneted with your desire to bring your nomiees to Australia. If you will answer every question in Parts "A", "B",and " C " clearly and fully, this will shorten the time needed to deal with your application and will save you and your nominees inconvenience. (b) Only one person and those directly dependent on him may be nominated on this form. A separate form must be completed in respect of any other person whom it is intended to nominate for entry to Australia . (c) All applications for the admission of Italian nominees from Italy must be accompanied by a Certificate of Family Status (Situazione Di Famiglia) given by the local authorities in Italy , in respect of such nominees. FOR OFFICIAL USE ONLY SEAIAL No.- SPECIAL CONDITIONSTYPE OF VISA OR ENDORSEMENT TO BE ISSUED IF CONDITION S SATISFIED VAID FOR INITAL STAY IN AUSTRALIA OF AUTHORISED OFFICER___________________DATE_____________ THE COMMONWEALTH DIRECTOR OF MIGRATION,______________________________ I, (GIVEN NAMES) WILLIAM (SURNAME ) SAVIEL of (ADDRESS) NO.467 Beaufort Street ,Highgate 6000,WA (PERTH) hereby nominate the person or persos detail in this form for entry to Australia. {PART A} DETAILS OF NOMINEE SAVIEL FAMILY HISTORY From BRITISH INDIA AND BURMA To PERTH WESTERN AUSTRALIA By GEORGE THOMAS SAVIEL 1. Family name SAVIEL Given Names (BLOCK Letters) BERTRAM HENRY 2. Address BURMA . RANGOON, NO 65 (Country) (City orProvince) THEINBYU STREET , THEINBYU 65 (Suburb or Village) (Street ) (No.) 3. Nationality BURMESE 4. Sex MALE 5. Marital Status (1) MARRIED 6. Relationship to Nominator(2) BROTHER If Wife Date of Marriage 7. Date of Birth 9. 8. 1923 8. County of Birth BURMA Town or Village PEGU 9. Details of Dependants- Required whether or not they are to accompany the nominee to Australia . If any dependants are not living in the same county as the nominee detail of address should be given. Names Relationship to Date of birth Nominee Wife DAW NYUN NYUN Wife 23.7.1911 (Given Names) SAVIEL FAMILY HISTORY From BRITISH INDIA AND BURMA To PERTH WESTERN AUSTRALIA By GEORGE THOMAS SAVIEL Maiden Name(4) Place of birth PROME Accompanying Nominee(3) YES Dependent Childern. (given names) MAY DAUGHTER 8.4.1947 RANGOON YES Note.- (1) State whether married , single,widowed,divorced or legally separted. (2) Sate whether "son", "brother" ,"sister-in-law" ,etc ,or "friend". (3) Answer "Yes" or "NO". (4) Family name of wife before marriage. (5) Give both Family and Given Names/ Part A continued overlead PART B DETAIL OF NOMINATOR Name SAVIEL WILLIAM (Surname in Block letters) (Given Names) Addresss NO 467 BEAUFORT STREET HIGHGATE 6000 W.A. Sex MALE Birth -Date 4.12.1921 County BURMA SAVIEL FAMILY HISTORY From BRITISH INDIA AND BURMA To PERTH WESTERN AUSTRALIA By GEORGE THOMAS SAVIEL Other Dependants(5) NIL Town PEGU Marital Status MARRIED Nationality BURMESE. Aliens Registration Reference No. (If not Australian citizen or British subject) B No 385571 Date of Nationalisation(if naturalized) Certificate No. If not born in Australia -Date of Arrival 29.4.1971 Last Permanent Address overseas No 4 Zagagane Street, Hningegone Thingangyun (Burma) Length of residence in Australia Will settledown in Australia. (Permanent) . PART C SUMMARY OF NOMINATION Nationality of Nominee BURMESE Name of Nominee- ( Family Name ) SAVIEL (Given Names) BERTRAM HENRY Dependants Accompanying- (Names and Dates of Birth) DAW NYUN NYUN (Mrs .SAVIEL)23.7.1911 and MAY SAVIEL (daughter) 8.4.1947 Dependants Remaining in Home Country Nil SAVIEL FAMILY HISTORY From BRITISH INDIA AND BURMA To PERTH WESTERN AUSTRALIA By GEORGE THOMAS SAVIEL Date of Birth of Nominee 9.8.1923 Relationship to Nominator BROTHER Country of Residence of Nominee BURMA Occupation Accounts Assistant . PART A DETAIL OF NOMINEE - continued 10. Usual Occupation Commercial Manager . 11. Proposed occupation in Australia Any LABOUR 12. Special Qualifications- Has nomimee any special qualifications or skills (University degree,apprenticeship to a skilled trade,etc.) ? If so give details and submit certified copies and English translations of documents indicating the type of qualifications Pass Certificate in Book-Keeping 13. Name of Nominee's Father SAVIEL EDWIN DAVID (Family Name ) (Given Names) 14 .Previous Residence. -Has nominee previously resided in Australia ? ( If "Yes" - give dates and places SAVIEL FAMILY HISTORY From BRITISH INDIA AND BURMA To PERTH WESTERN AUSTRALIA By GEORGE THOMAS SAVIEL of residence) NO. 15. Previous Application. - Has any application previously been made for the entry of the nominee or his dependants to Australia?. ( If "Yes" - give details of when and where application made ) Nil 16. Disabilities.-Are you aware of any disabilities suffered by the nominee or any of his dependants (e.g., loss of an eye or a limb, a history of serious illness or mental instability , or a serious criminal conviction) which would require the application to be given special consideration? (If "Yes"- give details ) Nil I CERTIFY that the particulars given in this nomination are, to the best of my knowledge and belief correct , and I understand that , if my nomination is accepted, visas for travel to Australia will be granted to my nominee and his or her dependants (if any ) only if they comply with the requirements for entry to Australia. Date 27.9.1971 Signature of Applicant W.SAVIEL FOR OFFICIAL USE ONLY STATE FILE NO . SPECIAL CONDITIONS. SERIAL No. TYPE OF VISA OR ENDORSEMENT TO BE ISSUED. IF CONDITIONS SATISFIED. VALID FOR INITAL STAY IN AUSTRALIA OF. SAVIEL FAMILY HISTORY From BRITISH INDIA AND BURMA To PERTH WESTERN AUSTRALIA By GEORGE THOMAS SAVIEL AUTHORIZED OFFICER DATE The following are all the letters that my father has sent to the Army Record Office in Middlesex England from 1966 to 1975 . My father asked for his Army record from the British and Burmes Army during World War Two in India and Burma . He also asked for his discharge Certificate from the Royal Army Medical Corps and the Discharge Certificate from the Burma Intelligent Corps during World War Two in India and Burma from 1942-1947. My father at that time was living in Burma from 1966 to 1971 and was living in Perth Western Australia from 1971 . He asked also for application for his war medals from World War Two from the British and Burmes Army for services to the King during World War Two. The following are these letters dated from 1966 to 1975 from my father William Saviel to the Army Record Office in Middlesex England and the ltters from the Army Record Office to my father living in Burma and Australia. The war medals he ask for are the 1939-45 Star, The Burma Star, The Defence Medal and the War Medal.Which he was permitted to wear from the SAVIEL FAMILY HISTORY From BRITISH INDIA AND BURMA To PERTH WESTERN AUSTRALIA By GEORGE THOMAS SAVIEL British and Burmese Army . ARMY RECORDS CENTRE Bourne Avenue , HAYES, Middlesex Telephone: 0I-573 383I , ext. AIR MAIL In any reply please quote: 68/27972/ARC/1 February 1968 Dear Mr. Saviel, 7525129 Private William SAVIEL In reply to your letter dated 17th January 1968, it is not understood why you say that you are still awaiting news of your war gratuity, as a letter was sent to you dated 15th November 1966 informing you that you were too late in claiming, as pay accounts for the 193945 War had been destroyed. This letter was received by you, as you acknowledged its receipt in your letter of 28th November 1966. In case you have forgotten copies of these are enclosed. The question of your medal has been referred to the Army Medal Office who will contact you direct. Yours faithfully, Mr. W. Saviel No. 38 90th st Kandawgalay Rangoon BURMA SAVIEL FAMILY HISTORY From BRITISH INDIA AND BURMA To PERTH WESTERN AUSTRALIA By GEORGE THOMAS SAVIEL ARMY RECORDS CENTRE Bourne Avenue, HAYES, Middlesex Telephone: HAYES 383I, ext. In any reply please quote: 66/69404/ARC October 1966 Dear Mr. Saviel, 7525129 Private William SAVIEL Enclosed you will find your certificate of service which in the event of loss cannot be replaced. The question of yor war gratuity has been forwarded to another Department, who will reply direct to you in due course. Yours faithfully, Mr.W.Saviel c/o Edward King 18 St Anthony Street Kandawgalay Rangoon BURMA AIR MAIL MOD (OS 8b) ARMY RECORDS CENTRE Bourne Avenue, HAYES, Middlesex Telephone: 0I – 573 383I, ext. In any reply please quote Mr W Saviel Your ref No 32, 88th Street Kandawgalay PO Our ref RANGOON 70/32465/OS 8b/6 Date 10 August 1970 Dear Sir 7525129 PRIVATE WILLIAM SAVIEL ROYAL ARMY MEDICAL CORPS I am to refer to your letter of 14 July 1970 and to state that according to the records held the details of the above – named are as follows: a. Full name - William SAVIEL SAVIEL FAMILY HISTORY From BRITISH INDIA AND BURMA To PERTH WESTERN AUSTRALIA By GEORGE THOMAS SAVIEL b. Father's name – E SAVIEL . Full name not recorded c.Date of enlistment 27.2.42 d.Place of enlistment – Maymyo e. Date of birth 5.12.21 f. Place of birth – Pegu, Burma g. Height 5' 8''- Weight 118 lbs. Yours faithfully MOD (OS 8b) ARMY RECORDS CENTRE Bourne Avenue, HAYES, Middlesex Telephone: 0I-573 383I, ext. In any reply please quote Mr W Saviel Your refernce No 32 88th Street Kandawgalay Our reference PO RANGOON 70/32465/OS 8b/6 Date 11 September 1970 Dear Sir 7525129 PRIVATE WILLIAM SAVIEL ROYAL ARMY MEDICAL CORPS I am to refer to your letter of 21 August 1970 and to state that according to the record held the above named: Enlisted Royal Army Medical Corps 27.2.42 Discharge on enlistment into BAF for service in the Burma Intelligence Corps on 31.10.43 Declared date of birth on enlistment as 5.12.21 Yours faithfully MINISTRY OF DEFENCE OS 8b ARMY RECORDS CENTRE L.W. BURNETT SAVIEL FAMILY HISTORY From BRITISH INDIA AND BURMA To PERTH WESTERN AUSTRALIA By GEORGE THOMAS SAVIEL -Copy( F B2(ii) AD) A/OR/75/25129(F 2B(ii)AD) 15th November 1966 Sir, I am directed to refer to you letter of 13th October 1966, relating to war gratuity. In reply i have to inform you that the final date for acceptance, for consideration, of any application for war gratuity was 1st January 1953. Exceptional investigation cannot now be undertaken since pay accounts for the 1939-45 war period have been destroyed, in accordance with normal practice , after retention for the requisite statutory period. It is regretted, therefore , that your application cannot now be considered and no further payment is admissible from Army funds. I am , Sir, Your obedient Servant, (Sgd) E.R. ANDERSON Mr. W. Saviel C3o Mr. Edward King 18 St Anthony Street Kandawgalay Rangoon Burma -Copy 28th Nov. 1966 Ministry of Defence Lansdowne House Berkeley Square London W.1. Sir, 7525129 – Private William Saviel Thank you for your letter A/OR/25129(F2B(ii)AD) of 15th November 1966 which informs about my War gratuity. In my letter of 13th Oct. 1966 I also requested for copy of my discharge certificate for services during the War in the Royal Army Medical Corps which I have not received. For your guidance I was enlisted on 27.2.42. Distcharged and enlisted for service in the Burma SAVIEL FAMILY HISTORY From BRITISH INDIA AND BURMA To PERTH WESTERN AUSTRALIA By GEORGE THOMAS SAVIEL Intelligence Corps on 31.10.42. Thanking you, Yours faithfully, (Sgd) W.Saviel (WILLIAM SAVIEL) William Saviel C/o Edward King, 18 St. Anthony Street, Kandawgalay, Rangoon (BURMA) (The discharge certificte was received by you & you acknowledged it 17.1.68) To Mr W. SAVIEL 41 Bronte Street, EAST PERTH, WESTERN AUSTRALIA 6000 21 APR 1976 Ministry of Defence, Army Medal Office, Government Office Buildings, DROITWICH, Worcs. WR9 8 AU Issue Voucher Number C 27 Authority 68/MEDALS/353/28268. (ARMY MEDALS) The under-mentioned Awards have been issued to you this day. You are requested to acknowledge receipt hereon , in ink, and to return this paper in the enclosed pre-paid envelope. If any Award cannot be delivered to the person for whom it is intended , it is requested that it may be returned by registered post. RECEIVED Awards and Ribbons No. Description For Re.Issue 1 1939-45 STAR 7525129 PTE. 1 BURMA STAR W. SAVIEL 1 DEFENCE MEDAL R.A.M.C. WAR MEDAL 1939/45 SAVIEL FAMILY HISTORY From BRITISH INDIA AND BURMA To PERTH WESTERN AUSTRALIA By GEORGE THOMAS SAVIEL TO BE SIGNED AND RETURN WITHOUT DELAY Signature ....WSAVIEL .........Address .....41 BRONTE STREET Date ....1st May 1976.................EAST PERTH 6000................................. WAP 15133-201 665743/M704567 4,000 bks. 9/69 Grp. 712 W. AUSTRALIA BURMA AUXILIARY FORCE. DISCHARGE CERTIFICATE. Certified that No. 3564 GNR. WILLIAM SAVIEL was enlisted in the Burma Auxiliary Force on 1-11-43. He served with the colours from 1-11-43 to 20-3-47 and was released on 21-3-47. Military Conduct – Good Medical Category at the time of discharge '' A ''. Decorations permitted to wear – 1939-45 Star, Burma Star, Defence Medal and War Medal. Authority:-AFW- 103. Station:- RANGOON. Capt for OC, Records Office Defence Services Dated the 21 March 1967. No.14767/INV/HA-5. From W.Saviel No.32 88th Street , Kandawgalay P.O. Rangoon. 14th July 1970 To, The Officer-in-Charge , Army Records Centre , Bourne Avenue, HAYES,Middlesex, England. SAVIEL FAMILY HISTORY From BRITISH INDIA AND BURMA To PERTH WESTERN AUSTRALIA By GEORGE THOMAS SAVIEL No.7525129- William SAVIEL – R.A.M.C. 1942/43. (BURMA) Dear Sir, I joined R.A.M.C . in the year 1942. Kindly furnish me with the following particulars from the records available with you – (a) My Full name: (b) My father's name in full; ( c ) The date I joined R.A.M.C.; (d) The place of joining R.A.M.C. ; (e) The date of my birth; (f) The place of my birth; and (g) My height and weight according to my records. The above information is required by the British Embassy , Rangoon in connection with my national status papers to enable me to move out to Australia. Thanking you . Yours faithfully, (WILLIAM SAVIEL ) Records Centre Defence Services. Rangoon. No. 147/ / 1 / HA – 5. Dated the 22nd August 1970. To, Mr. W. Saviel, No. 32, 88th Street, Kandawgalay, RANGOON. Subject:-SERVICE PARTICULARS – NO.3564 GNR. W. SAVIEL OF EX - BAF . Reference :- Your application dated 15-7-70. The following service particulars are furnished from the records held in this office: Name – WILLIAM SAVIEL. Father's name -E.D.Saviel. Date of birth – 4-12-1921. SAVIEL FAMILY HISTORY From BRITISH INDIA AND BURMA To PERTH WESTERN AUSTRALIA By GEORGE THOMAS SAVIEL Religion - Baptist. Race – Anglo- Burman. Height – 5' – 8'' Date of enrolment – 27-2-42 ( Served under R.A.M.C. w.e.f. 27-2-42 to 31-10-43 as a Private Nursing Orderly). Transferred to B.I.C. w.e.f. 1-11-43 as a Gunner and released and discharged w.e.f. 21-3-47. Medcial Category - '' A ''. Education - 9th Standard. Character – V. GOOD. Decorations permitted to wear – 1939-45 Star, Burma Star, Defence Medal and War Medal. RECORD OFFICE DEFENCE SERVICES No. 1R Date 22 -8- 70 · RANGOON (BURMA) SEIN For Officer Commanding. 41 , Bronte Street, EAST PERTH., W. Australia. 6000. 5th April 1976. Dear Sir, Refernce to your letter dated 18th August , 1975, 68 /Medals 353/28268 (Army Medals), I am here enclosing a reply letter and envelope from the Burma Postal Authority in connection to my enquiry of Parcel containing Medals and Stars. As the Kandawagalay Post Office was burnt down and destroyed during U Thant's (esc-U.N.O. General Secretary) funeral uprising. I had to contact the main Post Office where all the foreign parcels are kept for apprasing, assessing and storeing. Now a day the records are not live long. To day is one thing tomorrow is another. Every -Thing is upset and topsy-turvey in revolutionery Burma, it is impossible for me to expect such foreign Government Honours to get back into my hand. I would be very greatful if you can issue duplicate in view of the untracable, so as I can show my childern and friends my precious and prideful Medals achieved for my devotion towards the King and The Country. SAVIEL FAMILY HISTORY From BRITISH INDIA AND BURMA To PERTH WESTERN AUSTRALIA By GEORGE THOMAS SAVIEL If possible I deem a great favour and appreciate if you can let me have both normal and midget sizes. I remain, Sir Yours faithfully, W.Saviel. 25th November, 1975. To The Post Master, Kandawagalay P.O., Rangoon,. Dear Sir, The enclosed Photostud copy letter is by itself explainatory. I was in 90th Street during those period (1968) and I do not receive any intimation regarding delivery of the said parcel. If by chance the parcel still remain in your post office or any elsewhere kindly forward it to this distination. Air freight payable at Perth, or by any coneniencing method you would suggest. Thanking you in anticpation. Yours Sincerely, W.Saviel W.Saviel. 41, Bronte Street, EAST PERTH., W.Australia. 6000. About the Author GEORGE THOMAS SAVIEL I wasw born in Rangoon ,Burma in 1968 and at the age of 2 years 7 months emigrated with my parents and 4 older sisters to Perth Western Australia in 1971. We live in Perth , East Perth , Highgate and Girrawheen in Western Australia. I went to primary school in East Perth, Highgate and Girrawheen and went to high school in Girrawheen from 1982-86. SAVIEL FAMILY HISTORY From BRITISH INDIA AND BURMA To PERTH WESTERN AUSTRALIA By GEORGE THOMAS SAVIEL After my father died in 1986 I stared to research my family history on and off for 20 years. I join the Australian Army Reserve in Perth WA Australia in June 1987 and left in 1988. I later went to Melbourne VIC Australia in 1990 and join the Australian Regular Army and served in Sydney NSW from 1990 to 1991. After which I lived in Newscasle NSW for about 3 years and then went back to Perth WA in 1994. I have been living and working in Perth WA since 1994 and re started my research on my family history in 2008 .In which I have started to write my family history into a book .. George Thomas Saviel Sept 2009-09-12 Sources India Record Office British Library , London England U.K. Public Works Dept. Service Record. Padbury Millitary Intellingenticer Medical & Science Herald.1834, 1849. Calcutta Catholic Journal 1834. Burma Trade Directory 1952. The American Baptist Mission Church ,Thonze , Sagaing BURMA. Pegu Baptist Church, Pegu BURMA. Catherdral of holy Trinity, Rangoon BURMA. Books that I have read about researching my family history are the following. A Janet Reakes Guide , How to Trace your English Ancestors. The A to Z Genealogical Handbook by Janet Reakes. Tracing your Family tree for Australian & New Zealanders by A.G. PUTTOCK . 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